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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 12:44 am
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Dustin Meyer
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Look what showed up in my shop today. A young man brought this to me for repairs. It belongs to his girl friend who inherited it from her grandfather. He took it somewhere and had it cleaned and polished. There is no power cord and the head wires were cut. They were just going to use it as a decorator piece. Luckily the young man wanted me to see if it runs and it does. I'm installing a new head wire, new power cord, new oil wicks, cleaning the switch assembly, and installing new foot pads. It needs a threaded grommet which I'll order from Darryl. It's also missing the bakelite cover on the exposed part of the switch handle. Not sure if Darryl has those or not.
I tried to research this beauty but can't find much info. Can someone tell me the age and approximate value. The paint is original as well as all the brass. This thing is fantastic.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 12:47 am
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Not sure what happened to the pic but it didn't upload.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 12:48 am
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Dustin Meyer
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Backside of the R&M

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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 11:53 am
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Looks like a Westinghouse tank motor motor. BTW, the motor is in the trunnion backwards!

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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 02:11 pm
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Thanks Fred I'll reposition it before I begin the rewire. Is this a rare fan? Still trying to get a mfg. date and what it may be worth.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 06:00 pm
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It is not a rare fan. Westinghouse made tons of these fans for themselves and other companies including R@M and Western Electric. They were first introduced in 1905 and stopped making them in 1911 before making the stamped steel motors. The value of these fans range from 125-250 depending on condition. If you post a close up picture of the tag or tell us the patent date, style #,and voltage range somebody might be able to get a better date.

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 Posted: Sat Jun 30th, 2012 11:51 pm
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Chad here are the specs:
Style - 107988
Ser.# 25399
Patent Date - Dec.26,1893
Voltage - 100-110

Disappointed to here it isn't a rare fan. I've only been into fans for less than 3 years but this is the first one of these I've run across. This fan is in excellent condition and runs well on all speeds using my test rig. I have a new head wire and power cord on order from Darryl Hudson. My customer doesn't want to sell but is wanting to know age and approximate value.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 1st, 2012 07:56 pm
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I think the R&M tank did not appear before 1907 and for the 1911 model year R&M had their own AC tank motor fan, the 1404 which replaced the Westy motored tank fan. These R&Ms come with an 1893 or 1906 latest patent date motor tag but I am unaware of any differences. I think the 1906 tag first appeared in 1908. A very nice fan similar to yours just finished up on ebay but it did look like an excellent example. High $200 dollars is about the max for these nice R&Ms, maybe low $300s.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 1st, 2012 11:55 pm
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Thanks for the info Steve. This particular fan is in extremely fine condition. The young lady who owns the fan has no interest in ever selling it because it was her grandfather's fan. I'm ensuring that someday she might give it to one of her grandchildren. I have no doubt if taken care of it will run for another 100 years.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 2nd, 2012 03:03 am
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Dustin... you say the fan was taken to be cleaned and polished. I'm wondering, is it implied that it was repainted? The fan looks to have 100% paint, but it seems to have bad orange peel all over. Yes? Normally, this will only occur with original paint where it is next to exposed, rusted metal. That isn't to be seen anywhere on that fan...

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 Posted: Mon Jul 2nd, 2012 11:54 am
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Nick, Orange peel is caused by spraying paint at too high of temps or air adjustment.
The paint on that fan is basically smooth on the motor housing and rough on the base and ends of the motor which suggests to me it's the rough casting showing through the paint. It may have been rattle canned. But, what does that matter, Dustin didn't do it and is not responsible for it. He's just rewiring it.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 2nd, 2012 01:23 pm
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I know he's not responsible for it. I'm just making an
inquiry. It's nice to know these things. I've never seen
castings show through japan where there weren't "grains"
of exposed metal. It would have to be one heck of a rough
cast to show through japan like that...

There is the aforementioned "graining" going on here
between the switch lever and tag:

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 Posted: Mon Jul 2nd, 2012 04:11 pm
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Dustin Meyer
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Guys I took a closer look at the fan and have concluded it was repainted. I see little or no rust or normal wear and tear for something that old. However it's a moot issue since the owner is using it a decorator piece and she probably won't run it that much. It was a well done paint job however and it really is a nice looking fan. I have an old Western Electric Hawthorne vane fan I'm starting to renovate and the base is very similar and the casting doesn't show thru the original paint. It's interesting that the switch assembly in the Hawthorne is identical to the R&M, even has the same patent date of 12/26/1893.

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 Posted: Tue Jul 3rd, 2012 01:14 am
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Dustin Meyer wrote:  It's interesting that the switch assembly in the Hawthorne is identical to the R&M, even has the same patent date of 12/26/1893.Westinghouse made a lot of their tank motor fans for other companies and just rebadged them as was the case with your R&M and the Western Electric Hawthorn.  All are just a Westinghouse tank fan which is pretty cool I think; you can get tanks in many flavors.

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