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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 06:54 pm
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Jason Miller
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Very awesome art deco look to it. Works great. I would like to know how to take the housing and cage off of it to clean the motor. Also is this what they would call a VADER?

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 06:55 pm
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Side View

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 06:57 pm
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Housing view.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 08:58 pm
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I have the same fan - seems like they were quite popular (just do an ebay search!) Yours is pretty clean on the outside - I have used compressed "canned" air if you don't have an air compressor, plus a vacuum to get the dust out - if it's running well you risk damage by taking it apart, but I'm a relatively new to this hobby, see what the others say.
We use ours as a "daily runner" - gets a little warm on the slower speed (from the speed coil) so we run it at the faster speed.

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Steven P Dempsey
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"Livelyaire" mid-late 50s

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 10:18 pm
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Is this a vader?

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 10:21 pm
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The 'Darth Vader' Westinghouse refers only to the earliest Power-Aire series because the motor cover on the back side of the fan resembles the helmet Darth Vader wears.

This fan you have here is a Lively-Aire.

Here is the motor cover on the 'Darth Vader' Power-Aire fans.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 10:24 pm
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danged so I guess I do not have a vader. The vader dose look awesome u want to do a trade or sell it?
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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 10:28 pm
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Jason Miller wrote: danged so I guess I do not have a vader. The vader dose look awesome u want to do a trade or sell it?
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Although I do have a 'Darth Vader', the one in the picture is not mine. Mine is the larger 16" and is also a daily runner in my household. They also tend to be pretty pricy fans for what they are so it would all depend on what the trade is.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 20th, 2012 10:36 pm
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If you have no issues with the running, then there is no need to open her up.

I have had one of these apart and I believe there are 2 recessed screws underneath that hold the top case on.

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There are 4 screws on the bottom that hold this baby together...

But I must warn you, if you are new too the hobby, this might not be the easiest starter fan to learn on. When removing the cage, you must do so with caution to avoid scratching the motor housing. Placing 2 pieces of cardboard between the cage wire and the motor housing is advisable to avoid scratches. Reassembly can also be a bear with these fans. They are really great little daily runners though. Quiet and reliable.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 04:32 pm
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...also, you litterally have to bend the cage wires a little where they secure into the motor housing if you remove the cage. It is a strange design, but was not built with the intent of being dissassembled. The end of a great era for fan building. Anyway, I would only recommend removing the cage if you are planning a complete re-paint. If you simply plan on cleaning and re-greasing, this can be done by just poping off the top half of the motor housing. But again, beware if this is all brand new to you, because re-assembly can be tricky and you could bind up the shaft/bearing alighnment when putting it back together. There are also shims that go between both halves that can be tricky to realign when putting it back together. Anywho, good luck with whatever you decide to do!!

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 Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 04:33 pm
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...and here is where the cardboard comes into play...

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 Posted: Sat Jul 21st, 2012 04:48 pm
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exploded.

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