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 Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2012 07:51 pm
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Anybody see this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&item=180954289165&nma=true&rt=nc&si=DgRrxqzLH29%252BS1z0f4KJhNTfHqY%253D&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I bet the seller thinks he/she made a good deal.

While I don't know who got the motor, I bet the seller would have been surprised if they were patient enough to let the auction run its course.

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Some one probably offered them a few $$$$ for it. They most likey bought it cheap.

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Yep I saw that too.... You are probably right Steve ... Wish I would have thought of making a offer for it:hammer::hammer:

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I see that two club members bid on the motor. It's disappointing to have an auction ended early if you are one wanting a chance at it. When the 1898 pancake came up a few weeks ago I was very quick to send the seller a message to please let the auction run until the end or if he was temped to sell to an offer to please give me a chance at it also. I've never been a fan of having an auction end early as I see it as being unfair to those who bid as ebay intended. But I do realize that many great items are ended early and, when I am interested, I want to let the seller know that at least one potential bidder really wants the item to stay the duration.

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While we're on the subject, does anybody know where I can get a Holtzer-Cabet blade and cage?

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Maybe Alan Willms for a new H-C blade.

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Ron:

Would nickel be Ok ?

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Ron Powell wrote:
While we're on the subject, does anybody know where I can get a Holtzer-Cabet blade and cage?


:imao :imao :imao :wondering: Nah! No way.
Ron's too straight of a shooter.

Most likely, some self-serving,
screw-everybody-else, scumbag,
low life, once again, cheated the
seller out of the difference of what
the item would have sold for if the
auction had ran its full course...
And cheated all bidders and potential
bidders out of the chance of acquiring
a super rare item.

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eBay has rules.

One of which is the item belongs to the seller until it is actually in the buyers hand.


Auctions end early all the time. Unless you have a crystal ball, the reasons are not known with any certainty.

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I knew a guy in NY who would get sellers to end really nice cast iron cookware (Griswold) early by getting them to add a buy it now. Only this guy (kind of a scumbag I would say) offered or suggested a BIN price that was more than fair. Sometimes more than it was really worth. Fortunately he moved on to browner pastures or somewhere else where he isn't so obnoxious. The point is that not all people who cause an auction to end early are getting the item for a fraction of the value.

I have to say that I can't condemn a person for asking a seller to end an auction early or do a BIN. It's the seller perhaps who is at "fault" for it is he who makes the choice to end early. Do we join them if we can't beat them? I haven't as of yet.

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Ron Powell wrote: While we're on the subject, does anybody know where I can get a Holtzer-Cabet blade and cage?

While we're on the subject, I have a pair of six wing H-C blades that the owner might be interested in selling or trading. They were with a Jandus Gyro that was partially restored and are way too heavy for the motors to get up to speed. I can put you in contact with the owner if interested. Not sure if they are original or repop........they are extremely nice though....

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No, I didn't get it, nor would I want it.
It doesn't look like it started it's life off as a fan but, as a small utility motor with a flat belt.
Just wanted to see what you all were going to say and stir it up a bit.
Lord knows it's the only excitement anyone gets around here anymore. I don't know if I can wait for the next exciting post of history on some fan designer or flux variations in motors of the late 19th century.:sleeping::sleeping::sleeping::sleeping:


And Tom, In my opinion it doesn't take to much reading between the lines to figure out what happen in this auction or to whom may have gotten it.

That's just my opinion and I'm allowed that.

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One may speculate all one wants. One may even be correct.

Doesn't really matter.

The owner can do what he wants with his item.

I do think it is about time again for eBay to make an example of someone.

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This is becoming a trend again and one that I am not happy about. That C&C bipolar that ended early for $3500 was worth at least twice if not three times the buy it now price. In fact I have seen one fetch $12,000 after restoration. This Holtzer Cabot was not marked Fan Motor but it was still a nice piece worth $8000-$10,000. It might have surpassed this number had it not ended early...

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Tom Dreesen wrote: One may speculate all one wants. One may even be correct.

Doesn't really matter.

The owner can do what he wants with his item.

I do think it is about time again for eBay to make an example of someone.

I can rob and cheat too but, that doesn't make it right.

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Steve Stephens wrote: I see that two club members bid on the motor. It's disappointing to have an auction ended early if you are one wanting a chance at it. When the 1898 pancake came up a few weeks ago I was very quick to send the seller a message to please let the auction run until the end or if he was temped to sell to an offer to please give me a chance at it also. I've never been a fan of having an auction end early as I see it as being unfair to those who bid as ebay intended. But I do realize that many great items are ended early and, when I am interested, I want to let the seller know that at least one potential bidder really wants the item to stay the duration.
I also wrote the seller of your 1898 confection and told him not to cave in to any offer-touting bottom feeder and if he let the auction run its course he/she would be very happy with the money the fan would garner. The seller wrote me after Steve won it and told me he was glad he did not accept a $3000.00 offer from one BF and another $2500.00 offer from yet one other BF.

I too, figured that this HC motor would garner at least ten grand. There is something mystical and wonderful about any Holtzer Cabot fan or motor.

Kim, those 6-wing HC blades are beautiful!!! I've never seen one naked, minus the nickle plating...

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Ron Powell wrote: Tom Dreesen wrote: One may speculate all one wants. One may even be correct.

Doesn't really matter.

The owner can do what he wants with his item.

I do think it is about time again for eBay to make an example of someone.

I can rob and cheat too but, that doesn't make it right.

Call it what you want, but you are simply wrong.

One shouldn't play a game if they don't know the rules.

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Oh, I didn't see that in the eBay rules.
Well then, that puts a whole different light on things.
If eBay say's it's okay to cheat and steal I reckon I am wrong.

But, this time I'm happy to be wrong because I know when I stand before my maker I WONT be standing in the same line as others who follow eBay rules.

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More POWER to the person who got the fan - Afterall its the seller fan to do whatever he wants - I had placed a bid on this fan. When they hit ebay my philosphy is No Holds Barred.

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I just want to see fan values skyrocket!! Then I'll sell off my collection too!!

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Fred Berry wrote: I just want to see fan values skyrocket!! Then I'll sell off my collection too!!
But did this one sell?

Not one you can use in a value database ...

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Ron Powell wrote: Oh, I didn't see that in the eBay rules.
Well then, that puts a whole different light on things.
If eBay say's it's okay to cheat and steal I reckon I am wrong.

But, this time I'm happy to be wrong because I know when I stand before my maker I WONT be standing in the same line as others who follow eBay rules.


If you can prove off eBay sale through contact because of the auction, then show it.

The only entity (other than seller and "buyer") that knows if contact was through eBay message system is of course, eBay.  Notice the red letter warnings on eBay messages.  If eBay won't enforce their own rules, then it is as Jeter says: "No Holds Barred".

Any endeavor will have those that will operate in any grey areas or outright cheat.  That's what the rules are for.  Blame eBay for not enforcing their own rules.  It apparently isn't worth it to them as you rarely hear of any enforcement, even when admitted by an AFCA member on these forums.

I say, run a reverse sting.  Register with eBay as a newbie, put up an item worth over 10K, and when the offers come through, tell them that only an immediate payment by Western Union will allow you to end it early.

Collect all the offers you get, pocket the money, end it early, keep the item.

Who's going to complain?

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In recent past I auctioned a Vought-Berger "Two Balls" lamp cord adjuster of turn of the 20th. It was actually a later version from Vought-Berger of Lacrosse, WI. The earlier versions which hit the market in 97 were cast in ornate brass.

Copied and pasted just below is my reply to a third offer sent to me through ebay to dump the auction and negotiate a price. I did exclude handles, phone numbers and monetary offer.

"The 2 other messages aside from yours for this auction I have received in numerical order are copied and pasted below. I did not include the names and phone numbers offered. Aside from the second bidder so far,who has not contacted me making offer to end the auction, you are the #4 in line. The number of watchers on the auction is not astronomical, yet significant. I am under the distinct impression collectors of early electrical hardware are for most part impatient to see an auction end. I am in hopes you and the other two interested individuals who sent me a buy it now message, can find the patience along with the other interested individuals to see the auction reach its end. Thanks for your interest! Fans-R-Russ

#2. Hey,How much to buy the light now?

#1. I've had one of these fixtures for a long time. The counetrweight ball still has the "Two Balls Lacrosse WI" tag on it--always wanted to make a pair."

Granted...if someone called on me to dump my auction for a good cause other than filling my pockets with jing...I may consider it? But....I seriously doubt I would dump the auction.

Someday, I may make a mistake on one of my fan restorations, and a ebay buyer may be angry with me. He may want his money back, and want to return the fan. I will be sad on that day. But deep down inside I will know in my "heart and conscience"... I meant well. But one thing for sure, unless I made a mistake on my listing, the auction will end... when it ends.

If the auction ends prematurely on a buy out.......the individual selling the item is at the same level as the individual who made the offer that stopped the auction.

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Remember, the item on EBay is the property of the seller, and they can do with it what they want. Also, the only reason sellers stop auctions is greed. In almost every case I've seen, the sellers who hold out always do better. But maybe the seller bought this at a yard sale for $25. Someone approaches them to end the auction early for a price of $2K. The seller thinks they struck it rich. But it's the buyer laughing all the way to the bank. Don't expect EBay to lift a finger.

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"Don't expect EBay to lift a finger."

It is money out of their pocket.

The problem is proof.

I very often offer my Hunters through the BST page as a service to the fan community before sending  them to eBay.  Then again, I know what they will bring and price accordingly.  When sent to ePay, the price increasetas as their are more hands out.

If someone contacts me through the AFCA system while the auction is running, then I would have no problem selling to them at the BST price.  Prior posting to BST is key.

If someone contacts me through eBay, I reply through eBay.  I haven't had an item so rare and valuable as to warrant offers, but I  would be nuts to accept any offer.  They are nearly always low ball (Steve's example withstanding). 

Also, I do have an agreement with eBay that I honor.  Selling to contacts not generated by eBay (or whatever platform) should be acceptable. 

Otherwise, you are attempting to apply your own set of rules, whatever they may be.

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This  is emotionally charged because because we see what we missed. Compared to what goes on Washington (regardless of who's president), big business, etc., this is minor stuff.

I get pissed off  also but it's just the way things work on Ebay and a lot of other places. As long as Ebay gets their cut of the selling price they don't care what happens.

We all love our "stuff" but a lot of libidinal drive is in the chase and the acquisition. Plus for most of us at some kind of level this is a game. People are human and some cheat at what ever they do. Even Mother Theresa had some kind of skeletons in her closet.

You may think I am FOS but that is what I think

Of course, you probably don't give a "Rat's A--"  what I think but that's OK :) 

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"As long as Ebay gets their cut of the selling price they don't care what happens."

But they don't get their cut.


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I stand corrected. You are right ! ( I don't see that statement very often) LMBO 

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Jeff Whitfield wrote in the first post: Anybody see this?

Yes, I was the 4th to view this
short lived aborted auction.

If I hadn't a time sensitive errand
to run at the time, I would have
warned the seller of the BS tactics
some would resort to, to acquire
his/her rare motor.

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It actually gets more complicated than many may know. I was made aware of this on one of our auctions. The individual wrote me a note in return to my response that I would not deal with him. He stated he was willing to wait the auction out and bid. He went on to say he was afraid he would lose out if he did not try to buy it from me direct. He stated he had lost out more than once in past due to auctions ending prematurely.

I believed him at the end of the auction. He won, and gave me good feedback. Go easy on judging others, I have had to learn that lesson the hard way many times over.

Ebay is just one of many business markets. It will never be perfect, not as long as humans are humans.:D

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I didn't take "Mommy Mommy they did it too" from my kids, and it don't get any better from adults either.

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I agree, being humans has nothing to do with being a thief.
It's the humans with no ethics or morals.

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Hmmm...

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Seller said starting price was wrong... It will be re-listed.


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I received the same message that Levi received from the seller PICKIN:

"It was ended early because the starting price was incorrect.It will be re-listed again....."

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Levi Musselwhite wrote:
Seller said starting price was wrong... It will be re-listed.

He cancelled a bid for $11.11 so the starting price probably was $9.99. Top bid cancelled was $500 so that's as far as the bidding got in about two days.

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Glad he didn't sell out. Hope he gets 8 to 10 g's for it.

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HIs motor looks like the first one in the fan motor section of this 1900 H-C catalog-

http://www.fancollectors.org/Holtzer/Images/ads/Holtzer%20Cabot%20Catalog.pdf

Scroll down about 2/3 the way for the fan motors.
Note the last motor for which two blades were available, one on each end of the motor.

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Steve Stephens wrote: Levi Musselwhite wrote:
Seller said starting price was wrong... It will be re-listed.

He cancelled a bid for $11.11 so the starting price probably was $9.99. Top bid cancelled was $500 so that's as far as the bidding got in about two days.

Starting price wrong?

On a fan that will make thousands?

Really?

It will be re-listed?

I will start holing my breath ....

now.

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The earliest HC was the Horizontal Coil. Next came the Basketweave, then the Vertical Rib, then the Tombstone.i've seen fewerTombstones than the others.

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