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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2012 11:21 pm
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Jill Zerrusen
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I always find myself being drawn to old fans, but have never pulled the trigger and bought one.  Until yesterday.  This is the first floor fan that I've seen and just couldn't pass it up. 

BUT...  I know nothing about old fans.  Only that I like the way that they look.  Can anyone tell me anything about this fan?  Any kind of information is welcome, the more the better.  Does it have any value?  Age?  Rarity?  Original parts?  Suggestions on cleaning it up or refurbishing.  Anything I should know before having it rewired?  Ect. ect. ect.

If there is any info from the fan that I can share to help find out about it please tell me what to look for.

Thanks!  Can't wait to hear from someone.

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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2012 11:24 pm
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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2012 11:25 pm
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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2012 11:26 pm
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Remember the name "Vortalex" because that is what you have. Made in 8, 10, 12, 16, and a super sized model plus some floor models. All have a blade design that was a "vortalex" blade and those aluminum (a few steel ones too) were prone to getting bent and out of balance. That may be what happened to your blade as the blade on there is from something else, maybe a vent fan but not a blade that would belong to your fan. You may have a hard time finding a proper blade since they do get damaged or out of balance frequently. Nice fans though when working as they should.

Here are some ebay completed listings you can look over. Your fan appears to be a 16" version and the oscillating bell shaped part below the gearbox is missing. The 12" and 16" Vortys were basically the same in regards to parts. Yours is probably late 1930s, maybe right after WWII.

http://www.ebay.com/csc/Electric-Fans-/4037/i.html?_ipg=100&_from=R40&_npmv=3&_vc=1&_sc=1&_sop=10&_trkparms=39%253A1%257C66%253A1%257C65%253A10&_dmd=1&_nkw=vortalex&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc

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 Posted: Mon Oct 22nd, 2012 11:30 pm
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This is the info I found on the fan (it all means very little to me):

Cat. 78x236

No. AA28280

Volts.  110/120

Cycles.  60

Amp.  8

Spec.  272814-1

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 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 12:25 am
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You want a blade like this one.  The cage looks the same.  A 4 blade model could work.

Watch eBay and find a parts fan or blade.  They do come up.


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I think a 16" Vorty is always a four blade fan Tom but the 12' can be 3 blade (early) or 4 blade, later.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 01:19 am
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Yes.

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Well if they could do a 24 three winger, wonder why not a 16?


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You need a gearbox too- I notice the bell or crankwheel missing from it and you're not gonna find one that will actually go on and function for any length of time. I would hunt down a hammered-out parts fan, a regular desk model, and harvest the guts and blade from that. If that fan is a 16" model, I might have some stuff that will get you going. I gave a bunch of that stuff away, but I may have just enough left in the back of the dungeon, er... closet.

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The nice thing about your new fan is you have the nicer base. As long as you can find another vortalex fan of the same size, its worth the money to buy a fan with a good motor and blade and transplant them on the one you have now.
The good news is they come up on ebay frequently and there are probably a few members here that have what you need.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 03:47 am
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Bronze and tan late 40s.

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 Posted: Tue Oct 23rd, 2012 11:47 am
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Oooohhhh, I wish my fan looked like that, I love it.

Thanks, everyone, for the info.  I'll continue to do more research based on this new information. 

I brought it home planning on just cleaning it and making it look as nice as possible.  I won't be able to refurbish myself and I'm afraid I won't find anyone in my area who does this.  At the most I was going to see if I could find someone to rewire it.  (It still works, but the wire is in petty bad shape).  Maybe I'll start collecting the parts I need and, someday,  find someone who can fix it up.

Would anyone like to tell me what it is worth in its current condition and what kind of money I could expect to pay to have someone redo it for me?

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 Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2012 02:52 am
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Can any of the experts tell me if this is an acceptable parts fan for my project, or should I keep looking?...

"1951-52 GE oscillating 16 inch three speed fan catalog number is F11V163 works good"



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NO I can tell you that there are enough of the tan colored fans out their that you can peice out, you dont want a miss matched colored fan and then if you want it all the same spend more money to paint it so it all looks the same. just sit and wait...thats what we all do for the parts to come up

Unless you are planning to color the whole fan in which yes that fan can work for what you need to complete yours.

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If you plan on painting it anyway that one will probably do the trick.

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Great to hear!  I've been planning on painting all along.  I was just worried about the blades.  Are those all metal and paintable?  Seems strange to be painting something like that. 

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Yes they are all metal with the exception of the little cap that says vortalex in the middle. try not to bust or mess it up with what ever you use to remove the paint that may be corrosive to the bakelite button in the middle.

And what exactly is strange about painting something like that? I do it all the time because thats how they came originally.

Just wondering whats the strange part for... thats all.:wondering:

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I wasn't sure about painting plastic.  I've yet to see these blades in person.  I could tell that the actual blades were metal, not too worried about that.  But like you said, it seemed like that "button" in the middle appeared to be plastic.  I was not sure that painting plastic would work.  I'm new to this.  So, I just paint the plastic part same way I would any of the other parts?

 

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Most definately, if your worried about the paint slipping off of it try useing primer then paint. but then it all depends on how many coats of paint you put on and the drying time between the coats that can cause a run...oh and make sure its a warm day also, that helps allot. its all on the can if your useing spray paint.

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 Posted: Wed Dec 5th, 2012 11:29 pm
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Here is one I restored a few years ago.

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I love that.  Thanks for the picture.

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Better than original steve--course that's not too hard from some of those GE color schemes featuring various shades of brown, polished blades look cool

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Is the paint on the cage of this fan the same as the base and motor, or different?

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Jill  -  There is a guy on the BST who has a bunch of Vorty blades for sale.  http://www.afcaforum.com/forum2/25619.html       

I think that he may also have some other parts.

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Thats a 16" so its always a 4 blade. I'm not sure when/where/why they vacillated between 4 and 3 blades on the 12 but the 16" has never come up in a 3 blade to my knowledge.

Honestly, I'd probably find a whole "head" off a 16" fan personally. That oscillator is a bitch to replace. You'd just need to solder the head wire leads assuming the switch and capacitor are good in the base. NICE FAN!

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