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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:10 am |
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David Hoatson Guest 
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I picked up a nice Westinghouse sidewinder ceiling fan. It's pretty early ("Pittsburg" with no "h" on the motor tag dates it to around 1909). I believe I was the first to open her up - very neat wiring. One of the stator wires went up the down rod with only one splice at the coil wire. Attached Image (viewed 1417 times): Last edited on Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:25 am by David Hoatson |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:11 am |
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Bailey Kitchings Guest 
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Nice find! 
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:16 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The owner had actually oiled it, too much actually, causing an overflow and an oil film on the wiring that collected a lot of dust. This may have protected it. The insulation is in great shape. It has a 3-speed switch, but 2 and 3 are jumpered together and there is a single-speed (2-wire) speed coil. Attached Image (viewed 1298 times):
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:19 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The paint is a bit rough, so I'm stripping it down. I plan to do a copper oxide, with black in the recesses and copper on the high parts of the cast pattern. Something like this fan that Vintage Fans did: Attached Image (viewed 1333 times):
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:22 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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I'm picking up another fan this weekend and plan on copper oxiding it, too. I will sell one or both when I'm done. I have one set of good original blades and plan on making one or two new sets from oak, walnut, or mahogany.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 01:35 am |
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James Guinn Guest 
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David Hoatson wrote: I'm picking up another fan this weekend and plan on copper oxiding it, too. I will sell one or both when I'm done. I have one set of good original blades and plan on making one or two new sets from oak, walnut, or mahogany. Get it going Dave!!  Nice CF!!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 07:17 am |
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Louis Weedman AFCA Member 
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Nice find! Show us pictures when you are done! I have a matched pair of "Pittsburg" Westy Sidewinders I bought at an antique store a few years back. The serial #'s are close enough that I think the two fans have been together since new. Both had all the original wiring, even the braided 2-conductor inside the hanger pipes.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 07:20 am |
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Josh Backens Guest 
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Very nice, David!! I wish I could find a nice ceiling fan like that! They're so hard to come by. Been searching for years.....
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| Posted: Fri Sep 5th, 2014 11:06 pm |
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Steven P Dempsey Guest 
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I had a nice sidewinder 'til the idiot shipped it to me without taking rotor out of the motor casing . . . ****snif*** Attached Image (viewed 1241 times):
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| Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2014 12:28 am |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member 
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http://afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=31878
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| Posted: Sat Sep 6th, 2014 12:37 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Folks think you can't break iron. Just put it in an old box with newspaper. 
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 12:07 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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I got the parts back from the copper plate. Attached Image (viewed 1194 times):
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 12:09 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The plater showed me a beetle that he nickel and copper plated. Attached Image (viewed 1161 times):
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 12:17 am |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member
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David Hoatson wrote: The plater showed me a beetle that he nickel and copper plated. Priceless David! Make a chain pull out of it!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 02:24 am |
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Tony Clayton Guest 
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Nice Sidewinder David . I hope to own one just like you found some day.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 02:59 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Tony - I've got two and only need one. I'm going to try to get one finished and take it to Tim Mark's meet next Saturday. I'll have about $450 + labor invested. I'm going to do an oxided copper finish. It should look really good on this fan cus of all the texture and relief on the castings. It came with a good set of blades, too. I picked up a snap switch. Not an off-high-low switch; it will just switch between high and low. I was going to assemble it and offer it for sale at Tim's, but now I wonder if someone would want to buy it as fully prepared kit and assemble it themself. I'm driving up from SC to PA and you being VA, we could meet if you're interested.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 03:08 am |
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Steven Gilmore Guest 
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Sweet David, Glad you will be at Tim's meet. Looking forward to meeting you and I would love to look at your Sidewinder Fan (Sadly can't buy a CF yet). Just happy to get to meet you!
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 03:12 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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People could afford ceiling fans if they would just stop paying $4,000 for old dragon phone booth fans. Attached Image (viewed 1150 times): Last edited on Sat Oct 18th, 2014 03:23 am by David Hoatson |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2014 03:25 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The dragon fan is off topic, but a sweet fan. The picture is from another collector's web site. I always liked this fan.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19th, 2014 08:23 pm |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The copper oxide is looking good. I did a light media blast and wiped with acetone, then dipped in liver of sulphur, sloshing each part around for about 40 seconds. Attached Image (viewed 1095 times):
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20th, 2014 04:00 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Bottom covers. Attached Image (viewed 1068 times):
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2014 01:54 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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1st pass at polishing. Attached Image (viewed 1060 times):
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2014 02:23 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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A bit more: Attached Image (viewed 1032 times):
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2014 03:24 am |
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Tony Clayton Guest
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That looks amazing David.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2014 03:35 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Thanks. If I don't have any issues, I'll take it to Tim's PA meet and hopefully send it off to a new home with someone.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2014 02:55 pm |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The down rod: Attached Image (viewed 929 times):
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23rd, 2014 03:12 pm |
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Tony Clayton Guest
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Beautiful David! can't wait to see it assembled.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2014 05:30 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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I got the fan assembled and running. YouTube video: http://youtu.be/ZkddFZqLE5M Attached Image (viewed 898 times): Last edited on Fri Oct 24th, 2014 05:31 am by David Hoatson |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2014 07:56 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24th, 2014 08:06 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The switch is a 2-way wall switch. If someone has a spare 2- or 3-speed switch, let me know. I only use one set of contacts to go between high and low. On/off is via the wall switch. Maybe it will get better after it gets some time on it, but it won't start in low without a push. The switch body is about 1/4" larger than the correct switch, but it fits. The hole-to-hole centers were about .2" too far spread out to match the tapped holes in the stator, so I took a 1/8" burr on a die grinder and ovaled the holes out in the ceramic switch base. It worked and is sturdy, but an 1/8" thick round adapter plate with two through holes to match the stator and two tapped holes to match the switch would be a cleaner solution. Attached Image (viewed 932 times): Last edited on Fri Oct 24th, 2014 08:10 am by David Hoatson |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2014 09:01 pm |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Both fans have found new homes. 
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| Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2014 09:14 pm |
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Steven Gilmore Guest
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Congrats David. I know it is sad to let go of a fan but hopefully the money in your pocket helps out.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2014 09:49 pm |
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Andrew Block Guest
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I'm glad they sold. For restored copper oxide this was a SCREAMING deal.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 5th, 2014 11:25 pm |
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David Hoatson Guest
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I enjoyed working on them, and I probably made 10 cents/hour working them. I may celebrate with a night out at Taco Bell.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2014 02:19 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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I finished up my second Sidewinder and it will soon be off to a new home.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Qt8GvjWdQ Attached Image (viewed 771 times):
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2014 02:23 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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New white oak blades, but the rest of the fan is very original. I didn't replace any wiring - it was in very good shape. It puts out a strong breeze. Attached Image (viewed 813 times):
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2014 02:24 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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The new owner is going to finish the blades. It's nice wood. Attached Image (viewed 810 times):
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2014 02:25 am |
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Tony Clayton Guest
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Beautiful work David! I'm sure the new owner is gonna love it.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2014 02:44 am |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Thanks. I figure that after expenses, I made about $3.50/hour. Makes up for the money I lost on the last one.  I enjoy working on fans because I can learn how they were made and I can respect the engineers and designers from long ago. Plus there's a little thrill when you finish assembly, turn them on and they start to spin. These old fans have a soul. Makes you wish they could tell their story.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 18th, 2020 06:28 pm |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Here’s a schematic
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