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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2017 03:58 pm
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Ron Eveland
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hey guys, looking to add to my polar cub collection.  I am looking to buy a polar cub type C, and also looking for an original box. I have a type g and type h already, but if you have anything else I can add to my polar cub shelf, let me know!
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You may already know this, but you can tell the relative age of Polar Cubs by the letter.

"Every Cold Day Gets Hot", or ECDGH. E being the oldest of the series, H being the latest.

I think the late Stan Good came up with this many moons ago.

~Sparky~


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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2017 04:22 pm
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Ron Eveland
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Thanks for the info Rod. I knew they went in order and ended in H, but I forgot what the saying was and what the first one was. Thanks for the reply. Love these little guys

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Rod is the company poet... 😆😆
Geo...

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George Durbin wrote: Rod is the company poet... 😆😆
Geo...

Stan lived in Florida George, we Indiana guys (especially NWI)  might not have thought of that saying...

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Michael Rathberger wrote: George Durbin wrote: Rod is the company poet... 😆😆
Geo...

Stan lived in Florida George, we Indiana guys (especially NWI)  might not have thought of that saying...

I guess i should correct... Rod would be the narrator... Stan was the poet!😊

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I'm not sure if the Mysto was the E, or if the Mysto was in a class by itself.

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The Mysto's and the first A.C.Gilbert's had no types on the motor tags. What does the Polar Cub type C look like?  Will someone please show us?

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The first was the Mysto with the large blade badge, considerably larger than the later Mysto with the smaller blade badge (c.1915).  These were made when AC Gilbert was making the magic tricks and before the toy company if I recall correctly.  Both Mysto models have a completely open front of the cage.  Next came the E model that had an open front section of cage, but the outer cage ring did roll over the blade a bit to give a little more protection of the blade. Badge still located at center of blade.   The C and D Types had a cast motor housing and a two speed switch.  Also was first models to have a more conventional "S" wire type cage with a cage badge.  The Type G went back to a stamped steel motor housing and no switch but some G models had a cool ridged or ribbed base. I think all H models were smooth base.    I have a lot of info about AC Gilbert on my website here:http://www.HudsonsCustomMachining.com

 Click on the Fun Fan Facts Link and AC Gilbert is at the top as all company history is alphabetical.

Enjoy.

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Not a good photo but the only one I had on file. Top left shows the second generation Mystos.  Second shelf down shows a couple Type E fans. 


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Darryl Hudson wrote: Not a good photo but the only one I had on file. Top left shows the second generation Mystos.  Second shelf down shows a couple Type E fans. 





Impressive collection!

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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 11:27 am
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Thanks for the info Darryl, very interesting. Beautiful collection as well

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Darryl,
Thanks for your short refresher course on Polar Cubs.

I just reviewed my 80 or so different fans that I kept, and the records of the 25 or so that I recently gave away, plus the gallery and your website, about 30 different Erector Set motors and about 60 appliance (from movie projectors, mixers, vibrators, hair dryers and vacuum cleaners, etc.), all by A. C. Gilbert, and I have yet to see my first Type C!

Since you reference it again in your post, I sure would appreciate a photo of same.

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Bill,Here is a photo of a Type D.  The C looks the same.  I sold a collection of 10 Polar Cubs to a former lady AFCA member named Marcie Kibler from Ohio.  She got my Type C that I had.  Maybe someone has a Type C they could post.  I'd think Geoff probably has one or several.  

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Here's a photo of the earliest Mysto. Notice the size of the badge on the blade hub. 

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Here is a photo of the second series Mysto fan. Notice the smaller blade hub badge. 

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Those are awesome!

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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2017 02:43 pm
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Sorry about the sideways photos.  My iPhone does that and I don't know how to turn them upright.   Maybe somebody here can stand them upright.  

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I have some past photos, circa 2013, of Polar Cubs in Darryl's shop.  

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... For illustrative purposes as I'm not sure if these add to the conversation. My Polar Cub knowledge needs an upgrade.

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Hi Jeff,Thanks for posting.   The fan with the fiddle behind it is a 220 volt Type G. 

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The 20th post above are 2 of the Type E.   The Type E is more difficult to find than their Mysto predesessor.  The Type G is probably the most common. 

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Museum Fan....Type C........





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Thanks Kim,That's the first Type C I remember.  
They have to be the rarest of the few models that have tags and types.

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Kim, 
I'm wrong again, because I did not realize that the museum fans are not in the Gallery.

Of the easily accessible Polar Cubs with metal tags; I found 2 blank Mystos, 7 blank A. C. Gilberts, 0 type C, 5 type E, 12 type D, 15 type G and 11 type H. I did not go thru 75 + Erector sets to check their motor types.

Incidentally I see that my new post about the present use of Warren Kernell's South Side Electric building disappeared from my computer. Oh well. :violin:

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I have a "C". Will post tomorrow. It's identical to those posted above.

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I would like to see some more of that Emerson motor in the background there, is that the one where the rotor and shaft move separately from one another? The rotor gets up to speed and then some mechanism, which I would like to know more about, engages the the shaft. I love that motor and would love to have one some day... 

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Mike Eckenroad wrote: I would like to see some more of that Emerson motor in the background there, is that the one where the rotor and shaft move separately from one another? The rotor gets up to speed and then some mechanism, which I would like to know more about, engages the the shaft. I love that motor and would love to have one some day... Yea I have been looking at those to. Nice motors. This one just sold on Ebay for $150
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Electric-Motor-EMERSON-1-8-HP-Cast-Iron-Ceramic-Top-/332123101919?hash=item4d54145adf%3Ag%3AMLgAAOSwWxNYn6n-&nma=true&si=ntmfZZ3MZPZH3v%252Bt1y%252BH9CiAT0g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557



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Mike & Don,
I've posted detailed pictures of the motor you're referring to, in the past.

Emerson  referred to it as a "Full Load Automatic Start", and it has two cast motor tags and a heavy cast iron clutch.  I think the one I pictured is my PI-648.

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Man I didn't see that, I had been looking for some time and didn't find one so I stopped watching. If anyone knows of one for sale let me know. 
Don Tener wrote: Mike Eckenroad wrote: I would like to see some more of that Emerson motor in the background there, is that the one where the rotor and shaft move separately from one another? The rotor gets up to speed and then some mechanism, which I would like to know more about, engages the the shaft. I love that motor and would love to have one some day... Yea I have been looking at those to. Nice motors. This one just sold on Ebay for $150
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Electric-Motor-EMERSON-1-8-HP-Cast-Iron-Ceramic-Top-/332123101919?hash=item4d54145adf%3Ag%3AMLgAAOSwWxNYn6n-&nma=true&si=ntmfZZ3MZPZH3v%252Bt1y%252BH9CiAT0g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557




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Mike Eckenroad wrote: Man I didn't see that, I had been looking for some time and didn't find one so I stopped watching. If anyone knows of one for sale let me know. 
Don Tener wrote: Mike Eckenroad wrote: I would like to see some more of that Emerson motor in the background there, is that the one where the rotor and shaft move separately from one another? The rotor gets up to speed and then some mechanism, which I would like to know more about, engages the the shaft. I love that motor and would love to have one some day... Yea I have been looking at those to. Nice motors. This one just sold on Ebay for $150
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Electric-Motor-EMERSON-1-8-HP-Cast-Iron-Ceramic-Top-/332123101919?hash=item4d54145adf%3Ag%3AMLgAAOSwWxNYn6n-&nma=true&si=ntmfZZ3MZPZH3v%252Bt1y%252BH9CiAT0g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557




i have one that's very similar   :up:

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Since my original post, I have a Type C in the mail, and working on a purchase of an original box and a Type D. Wooo

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Big thanks to Larry Cronin for my Type C. I now only need a Type E to complete my series :)

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112318302287 ebay number for this fan right now. It is one of mine.

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Thanks Nick, I just placed a bid. Is that a second series Mysto? Gorgeous fan bro.

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No its the first series because it has a large badge and both rings are the same diameter.  It is running with jumper cables because the cord was frayed too bad to use but wanted to leave it original. I also have a Type  G and D and one with an oscillator that's green.

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Ahh ok thanks for the info Nick. I just picked up a D today and I am almost done with my first resto job on my G. How much would you sell the green oscillator for?

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If you send me your email, I will send photos of the oscillator. I will ship your ebay fan tomorrow. Thanks, Nick Whoops, think I just found it on Paypal. Just sent it

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