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 Posted: Fri Jul 23rd, 2010 04:55 am
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Russ Huber
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How do you date these things again? I remember something with the serial number and dating. And...do you know it's a FACT Jack that the serial can accurately date them? :wondering:

The serial is A 61414. Sutton got the fan ball rolling in 45 right? How do you get a date after 45 out of 61414? :wondering: This is a 40s model right? :wondering:

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That fan is from 1947.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 23rd, 2010 07:34 pm
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Austin B Ko wrote:
That fan is from 1947.

Thanks, now what is the formula, and are there other secrets in the serial? Sorry, I remember Mr. duffy posting to someone about how to read the serial for goodies in past. Can you refresh Austin?

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 Posted: Fri Jul 23rd, 2010 08:43 pm
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Using the serial number to date a Vornado only works on the later ones when they changed the serial number style, as far as I know anyways. The Before-1950 Vornado fans have different serial numbers so they aren't that easy to date. Yours might be 1948 however. The rear cone looks smooth, not ribbed.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 24th, 2010 02:43 am
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Rob Duffy wrote:
Yours might be 1948 however. The rear cone looks smooth, not ribbed.


If the gallery dating is correct this is a 48. The model listed under 49 has a flat back bullet. I am presently working on a 47 model according to the gallery dating as the rear cone is ribbed aluminum. I have never paid close attention to these machines. I would now be able recognize and date the 40s models if the gallery models are correct. Your serial dating if it is valid must of started when the 50s models appeared? Thanks.

Psssst...check out how the factory slopped out on placing the bullet decal.

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Russ Huber wrote: Rob Duffy wrote:
Yours might be 1948 however. The rear cone looks smooth, not ribbed.


If the gallery dating is correct this is a 48. The model listed under 49 has a flat back bullet. I am presently working on a 47 model according to the gallery dating as the rear cone is ribbed aluminum. I have never paid close attention to these machines. I would now be able recognize and date the 40s models if the gallery models are correct. Your serial dating if it is valid must of started when the 50s models appeared? Thanks.

Psssst...check out how the factory slopped out on placing the bullet decal
Could you get pictures of the decal? Thanks.

As for the other dating method, it is proven correct. I have successfully dated many of my Vornado fans with that method and other Vornado collectors use the same method. Unless there is information to state otherwise, I do believe that is how the later ones are dated.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 24th, 2010 03:22 am
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 Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 02:29 am
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Hey Russ,

Your Vornado 12D looks to be a late 47 or 48 model.  Yours is the last of that production model do to the rear cone.  I call them the transitional model because in 1949 is when Sutton introduced the model 38.  The original 12 series had jail bar style grills made from 1946 through 1947 or 48.  Your Vornado is beautiful condition.

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 Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 03:09 am
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William Comley wrote: Hey Russ,

Your Vornado 12D looks to be a late 47 or 48 model.  Yours is the last of that production model do to the rear cone.  I call them the transitional model because in 1949 is when Sutton introduced the model 38.  The original 12 series had jail bar style grills made from 1946 through 1947 or 48.  Your Vornado is beautiful condition.

William Comley


I nailed two side by side that came from a Chicago estate.  A 12" and 10" that must of worked together to keep the breeze moving at the same place.  I am no authority on them William, but am learning.  I do respect how effectively they move and channel breeze.  Thanks for sharing your knowledge and kind words.

Right now I have my fave fan working by my side.  My little 9" oscillating aluminum body black enamel Signal Cool Spot.  I love mighty mouse despite her paint loss. She runs on demand without complaint. :D  

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In a 1998 listing compiled by Michael Coup of Vornado and Michael Breedlove:

A12D1-1 was attributed to 1949, and A12D1-10 was attributed to 1950, and both were described as early aluminum models, hard to find in good condition and commercial models. 

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Nancy Taussig wrote: In a 1998 listing compiled by Michael Coup of Vornado and Michael Breedlove:

A12D1-1 was attributed to 1949, and A12D1-10 was attributed to 1950, and both were described as early aluminum models, hard to find in good condition and commercial models. 
That information is old and outdated. These models started some time in 47-48. They changed the fan in 1950 to the common multiple-ring grille.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 4th, 2010 03:40 am
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Hi Nancy,

Your right on this one.  I agree the 12d & 10d with the straight aluminum rear cone were 1949 and 1950.The goose neck with a jail bar grill was O.A. Sutton's first production models which were introduced I think in 1946. The goose neck models of the 12d & 10d didn't last that long until he changed the units to the standard base and yoke. After 1950 most models were designated as 16,20,24,28,38 and variations of these models which were window turnabouts and pedestal models.  Can't forget the mighty model 16 aluminum pedestal and the 60p and 60w.  In my humble opinion these air circulators were the best of that era.  Sutton provided an excellent product for a moderate price at the time.  You got what was an awesome air circulator. One last comment, Michael Coup taught me a lot about the concept of these air circulators and how they worked.  His company continued the Vornado concept with his introduction of the 280ss which was the best fan he produced. The 280 is bar none the best one to this day with a Fasco fully enclosed motor they run forever!!!!!!

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William Comley wrote: Hi Nancy,

Your right on this one.  I agree the 12d & 10d with the straight aluminum rear cone were 1949 and 1950.
Oh whoops, I didn't know she meant the straight-coned 10D1-1 and 12D1-1. I thought those came out in 48 though. :wondering:

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