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 Posted: Wed Jul 25th, 2012 02:27 pm
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I came accross this site while researching an 1890's ceiling fan, and realised you might be able to tell me about my Century box fan. It was given to me by my father-in-law, the original owner, in the 1970's. The case seems to have a green metal flake enamel coating, and the fan weighs a ton.

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a very interesting design. If the side had two built hand-grabs, it is very similar to an Atlas Aire that is on ebay right now, with a window mounting panel. The metalwork and color says 50's

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Yes, two hand grabs, and a speed and a reversing switch on the lower side. It seems that fan companies were fairly fast and loose about rebadgeing. the ceiling fan I was enquiring about was labelled " Dayton Fan and Motor Co. " but was apparently a Westinghouse

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obviously that was a 4 blade, mine has 6

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That thing is monstrous.  Does anyone thing that could have been the kind of fan they carry on firetrucks to clear smoke?  It looks too big to be residential (at least to me)

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3.6 amps :shock:

When did Century split from Hunter?

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It's a big mother, probably 30 inches square or more ( it's in my attic, so I'm not exactly sure) and about 5-6 inches deep, and very heavily built. It's a challenge to carry.

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there is a similar atlas aire on ebay right now with the window panel, not the first one i have seen  too and the blade is a 20" it looks just like this in design except the blade. there is also a smaller version AA that i have seen with a window panell, same design .Emerson did make up to 30" window fans back in the 50s, so who knows here? the side hand holds and controls sure look like the AA and many brands shared dies. Ge and Kel Aire shared LOTS of items, Chelsea/Constellation box and window fan designs went to  Frigid/Capri/Korvettes/Korvaire/Vornado.... Atlas Aire designs window fans were used by SuperLectric, who used Manning Bowman Designs for its box fans, Kenmore/Sears put its label on everything etc... GE also made some window fans for Signal in the late 50's , go figure

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Clearly this is not a pure science !

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Is this a true boxfan or a window fan? Grilles on both sides? I never know that Century made window fans or boxfans, only thing I knew was they made desk fans and ceiling fans. Learn something new every day...

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Fred Berry wrote: Is this a true boxfan or a window fan? Grilles on both sides? I never know that Century made window fans or boxfans, only thing I knew was they made desk fans and ceiling fans. Learn something new every day...
That's the problem.  The "Century" we know and love was absorbed into Hunter, hence the Hunter Century fans.

When R&M bought Hunter, they seemed to market some obvious Hunter products with only R&M on the tag.

Maybe they did it with the Century name also, although I can't say that looks like a Hunter product.

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Century still makes motors - they sold only the Fan division to Hunter in 1936

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Bill Voigt wrote: Century still makes motors - they sold only the Fan division to Hunter in 1936

Sure looks like a fan to me.

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Yes, it Is a fan. It moves some serious air as well. I find it very amusing that there is so much crossover with all these fan makers. You really can't be an expert with just one manufacturer.

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Tom Dreesen wrote:
Bill Voigt wrote: Century still makes motors - they sold only the Fan division to Hunter in 1936

Sure looks like a fan to me.


The motor tag is there... the fan tag isn't.

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I think the grill tag says 'century' but it doesn't read well enough in the picture to tell. I'll get a close-up in the AM. I don't think there is any other tagging on it, but I'll check.

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Now that I look at the grill, I see it is one spiral piece.  That is certainly a Hunter design.  I suspect the housing is Hunter.  I do not remember that blade on a Hunter.
A forum or google search for Hunter window fans might give you a match.

EDIT Here's a Hunter


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There are some similarities, but the Atlas Aire in the first reply is actually a lot closer, almost identicle other than the adjustable window bracket.

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It looks more like this one....

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Did you possibly post the wrong picture ? That doesn't look like any of the units under discussion.

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The grill badge looks like it once read 'Atlas Aire' But the reply box won't let me post the picture. Is this a computer glitch or a website policy ?

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The problem was trying to post from my iphone. Apparently the phone version of the website can't manage the browse function.

Here's the grill badge: 

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And the end view showing the speed and reversing switches :

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One last pic showing the blade diameter :

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Looks like "Atlas-Aire" would put their name on most anything.

http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=14306&forum_id=5&highlight=atlas+aire

http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=23076&forum_id=5&highlight=atlas+aire

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re - 15th post -

Tom - The point was that Century continues to make custom and fan duty motors

for OEMs into the 21st century.

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Bill, the point was it isn't a Century badged box FAN.

Atlas-Aire wasn't on my fandar till I was in Richmond at FF and spiffed up my elder Daughter's floor model in one of the above links.

A Universal motor, a Century motor, and what is prob, an R&M/Hunter motor ...

AA may have made their own housings, and maybe blades (never have I seen that 6 wing blade), but not motors.

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