AFCA Forums Home
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
AFCA Forums > Antique Fan Collectors Association > Post-1950 (Vintage) > * New member introduction + new fan arrivals. :-)

 Moderated by: Steve Cunningham, Rod Rogers, Larry Hancock
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
* New member introduction + new fan arrivals. :-)  Rate Topic 
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun Dec 31st, 2017 03:26 am
  PMQuoteReply
1st Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
:D












Hi guys,
I’m James from Brisbane, Australia and I’m here to say hi and declare my love of vintage fans.   I’ve only been collecting for the past 5 years. With a limited budget, I’m always on the look out for local bargains. Like many things vintage these days, the prices seem to be on the rise.

Anyway, in the past couple of months I’ve landed a few new additions to the working fleet.

1. 1920s Westinghouse AC Whirlwind. (Surprisingly powerful) :-)
2. 1950s Westinghouse oscillating desk fan.
3. 1950s Revelair by Celco 12 inch desk top fan.
4. 1960s Revelair by Celco deluxe 16 inch pedestal fan (my favourite).

The Gumtree sourced Revelair joined me a few days ago in a sad, nicotine stained state with various minor issues that needed attention. She was missing a couple of screws but was otherwise complete. The pole was very loose inside the base that would cause the whole fan head to rock back when you turned it on! Just a few seconds with an allen key fixed that.  After a tear down, I cleaned the oscillation gearbox and added fresh grease. Cleaning, cleaning and more cleaning has finally allowed the chrome and paint to shine again. Wow, I’m glad the stink has gone!

The front and rear motor bearings were then lubed via the cool brass cap screws. The round base is cast iron, the post is steel but almost the rest of the fan is alloy including the motor housing, brackets etc. The chrome is in excellent condition but the base will need a repaint in the future.

A previous owner had replaced the power cord with a super thick cord that looked like it was from a 3 phase welder! It was replaced by a more suitable new five meter cord with a new black grommet and vintage style plug.

She is a beautifully quiet runner with quite a powerful output with all 3 speeds are working correctly. The oscillation mode has 3 positions: 1. Nil,  2. Minimum oscillation. 3. Maximum oscillation. It oscillates in an oval pattern  - very smooth and quite slow in it’s rate of movement.

There are a few dents in the alloy rear motor cover that don’t detract too much from the appearance.
I love the ‘deep dish’ cage badge that looks the goods when combined with the chrome and groovy 60s gold paint. :-)

Video showing the old girl in operation:  https://youtu.be/JYVmuitAxvI

Thanks for welcoming me and I’ll add some more posts on my other fans soon,

James.... :-)








Last edited on Wed Jan 3rd, 2018 05:32 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun Dec 31st, 2017 07:23 am
  PMQuoteReply
2nd Post
Jim Dunn
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon May 22nd, 2006
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Welcome to the club James.It sounds like you have got the bug...we all have here! :D Your revelair is in great condition.They are good runners....enjoy!

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sun Dec 31st, 2017 03:46 pm
  PMQuoteReply
3rd Post
James Pinette
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sun May 21st, 2006
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
welcome to the club... from one james to another:D

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sun Dec 31st, 2017 04:46 pm
  PMQuoteReply
4th Post
Tony Clayton
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
Welcome James,
Love the beautiful Revelair!! I also love the models of Westinghouse found in Australia that were not available in the USA  :cry: Sounds like you have been bite by the fan bug. I'd love to see more especially the Westinghouse.

Tony

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Mon Jan 1st, 2018 08:19 pm
  PMQuoteReply
5th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline









Thanks for the warm welcome guys,
Yes, the Revelair sure is a great runner - big and quite - a great combo.

Above is a pic of one of my Westinghouse 12 inch fans - this fan is a daily / nightly runner in my daughters bedroom - she literally can’t sleep without it!

It’s funny, I took the Westinghouse outside for a quick clean up to make it presentable for some pics and just ended up taking it entirely apart for a much needed service! :-)

It’s another very quiet fan - it’s had a hard life and is a little beat up but it’s been 100% reliable for years now.
Can anyone date this fan for me?  The top pic is of the oscillating arm.
I’ve got another slightly later model fan of this type that came from the Royal Australian Air Force offices at Amberley, QLD.  It’s currently with my parents who use it as their tread mill fan. :-)

James... :-)

Last edited on Wed Jan 3rd, 2018 05:31 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Mon Jan 1st, 2018 08:51 pm
  PMQuoteReply
6th Post
Tony Clayton
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
James,
1954-1955 here in the USA. I'm not positive about the down under model.

https://www.google.com/patents/US2872988?dq=2872988

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Mon Jan 1st, 2018 10:59 pm
  PMQuoteReply
7th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Tony Clayton wrote: James,
1954-1955 here in the USA. I'm not positive about the down under model.

https://www.google.com/patents/US2872988?dq=2872988

Thanks for the info - I suspected around the mid fifties. :-)

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Mon Jan 1st, 2018 11:16 pm
  PMQuoteReply
8th Post
Tony Clayton
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
James,
The Australian model looks to have 3 speeds.
Is that right?

Last edited on Mon Jan 1st, 2018 11:19 pm by Tony Clayton

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 01:50 am
  PMQuoteReply
9th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Hi Tony,
Yes, it’s a three speed. :-)

Another of my ‘new to me’ Westinghouse fans. :-)
http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=49848&forum_id=1&jump_to=431281#p431281

Last edited on Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 05:15 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 02:19 pm
  PMQuoteReply
10th Post
Richard Daugird
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2017
Location: Texas City, Between Hou. & Galveston, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
How do you get the Westinghouse apart? My friend has one he got from me, iyt could use a dis-assemble, lube and cleaning.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 02:58 pm
  PMQuoteReply
11th Post
Lane Shirey
AFCA Member


Joined: Wed Apr 30th, 2014
Location: Downingtown, Pennsylvania USA
Status: 
Offline
They're not for the faint of heart.  They can be a bit challenging to reassemble.  I think there were past posts here showing where the screws are. Maybe someone can find the link. It's been a while since I had one apart, but all I can recall is that it was a PIA

I do remember that the cage, bearings, and other bits are all held together by the clamping action of the 2 motor halves.  When you get all the goodies properly inserted , aligned and ready to go, it's best to clamp the motor halves together while you put the screws in.  Maybe with a heavy rubber band. 

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 03:04 pm
  PMQuoteReply
12th Post
David Allen
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Mar 6th, 2017
Location: Northport, USA
Status: 
Offline
Hi James!  Welcome and thanks for sharing your collection!  That Revelair pedestal is really a thing of beauty - I especially like the shape of the cage with the deep "donut" shape to it.
The hammer-tone paint job also looks great on it.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 07:07 pm
  PMQuoteReply
13th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline




There are 4 screws that hold the two motor halves together - they reside on the underside of the two halves. Disassembly is straightforward.

On reassembly, you must be careful that you position the two metal strips that sit upon the bearings so they slot back in position inside the top half.

The spring in the rear of the top half that acts to hold down the gearbox cover makes reassembly more difficult. I just held the two halves together while taping the rear section together with insulation tape. You just need to ensure you don’t tape over the screw holes (don’t ask). :-)
The later model Aussie Westhouse fans of this type are a little easier to assemble as Westinghouse moved the position of the screws to the top motor half.(top pic)

Last edited on Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 07:43 pm by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 08:58 pm
  PMQuoteReply
14th Post
Richard Daugird
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2017
Location: Texas City, Between Hou. & Galveston, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
Edit; I just re-read your post, that is the Austrailian model with screws on top. Thanks!

Last edited on Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 08:59 pm by Richard Daugird

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 09:06 pm
  PMQuoteReply
15th Post
Lane Shirey
AFCA Member


Joined: Wed Apr 30th, 2014
Location: Downingtown, Pennsylvania USA
Status: 
Offline
It's kinda funny that the screws on the US fans are "down under"  lol!!!

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 09:16 pm
  PMQuoteReply
16th Post
Jeff Jones
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 18th, 2014
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Seems like they were starting to go the route of hiding screws on ours...you know how that goes. They don't want people taking stuff apart and fixing it...these fans were just at the start of the throw-away era. They can still be fixed...but they were starting to make it harder to do so.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 09:27 pm
  PMQuoteReply
17th Post
Richard Daugird
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2017
Location: Texas City, Between Hou. & Galveston, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
My friend's fan runs great but I'd like to at least put new grease in the oscilator...

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 10:36 pm
  PMQuoteReply
18th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline

Sorry for the confusion, it’s only the later models that have the screws on top. The first pic of the blue fan in my previous post is not my fan.  95% of the Aussie Westinghouse fans of this type have the screws on the underside as per your US models.

Last edited on Tue Jan 2nd, 2018 11:00 pm by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2018 09:55 am
  PMQuoteReply
19th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline


My 1950s early series Warner Drayton Airflow 12 inch drying the new paint job of my 1960s Revelair 16 inch pedestal fan’s cast iron base. Metallic grey looks nicer than the original flaky and rusty grey paint job. :-)

Last edited on Sat Jan 6th, 2018 10:04 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2018 02:26 pm
  PMQuoteReply
20th Post
David Allen
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Mar 6th, 2017
Location: Northport, USA
Status: 
Offline
James Rand wrote:

My 1950s early series Warner Drayton Airflow 12 inch drying the new paint job of my 1960s Revelair 16 inch pedestal fan’s cast iron base. Metallic grey looks nicer than the original flaky and rusty grey paint job. :-)

That's base does look nice!

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Mon Jan 8th, 2018 11:59 pm
  PMQuoteReply
21st Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline




Another Westinghouse (Elcon rebadge) joined the collection this morning. Love these solid little fans! 

Dusty and rusty but complete and smooth running on all 3 speeds.

Cheap and local  - my favorite kind of fan.  :-)
Due to the rusty cage, it will get a re spray. Should come up a treat. I’ll update on the weekend resto. :-)

Last edited on Tue Jan 9th, 2018 12:14 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 12:23 am
  PMQuoteReply
22nd Post
George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Hi James!
Uh oh...  I see someone on the edge of being ate up!  Not a bad thing...

Geo...

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:16 am
  PMQuoteReply
23rd Post
Jim Kovar
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Feb 21st, 2011
Location:  Lincoln, Nebraska USA
Status: 
Offline
James Rand wrote:
Cool fan, James!


The front of the cage reminds
me of  the graphic depiction
of a black hole.


Don't stand too close!  You
might get pulled in and have
a new postal address in
another universe!



Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:19 am
  PMQuoteReply
24th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Jim Kovar wrote: James Rand wrote:
Cool fan, James!


The front of the cage reminds
me of  the graphic depiction
of a black hole.


Don't stand too close!  You
might get pulled in and have
a new postal address in
another universe!



Very true!! I respect the fact that the designers didn’t have to make such a dramatic cage for their fan, I like to think they made it that way because it looked cool! :-)

Last edited on Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:34 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:20 am
  PMQuoteReply
25th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
It’s amazing what a stainless steel scourer lubed with some water and an old towel can achieve. Looks like the chrome will be ok. That saved me some work!
Before / After:




Last edited on Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:40 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:32 am
  PMQuoteReply
26th Post
Jim Kovar
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Feb 21st, 2011
Location:  Lincoln, Nebraska USA
Status: 
Offline
That cleaned up nicely.  :thumbup

BTW, your steering wheel is on the wrong side!

Last edited on Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:34 am by Jim Kovar

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:41 am
  PMQuoteReply
27th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I know it is but so is everyone else’s around here so we’re all good. :-)

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Tue Jan 9th, 2018 07:01 pm
  PMQuoteReply
28th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline


How is this for weird? I did a quick bench test on the ‘new’ baby blue fan and in my nice, quiet workshop, the fan wasn’t as quiet as I remembered, particularly on Start Up. As my concerns grew, I decided I couldn’t wait until the weekend to start the resto. So it comes apart as per usual:

Pull the top motor half, remove the gearbox cover, lift the stator and gently slide out the rotor and what??!!

No oil wicks!! The front oil port is bone dry and spotlessly clean and the rear is full of prehistoric gearbox grease!

I just don’t understand why anyone would go to the trouble of dismantling the whole thing just to remove the wicks, clean everything and put it back together - not an easy task as you have to gently line up the stator and the two metal tabs etc.

Maybe a factory assembly error?? Unlikely right?!

Anyway, I soaked the bearings in fresh oil, cleaned out the rock solid grease and repacked it. Replaced the wicks, oiled everything and reassembled it - (several times as the stator was difficult to position without it rubbing with the rotor).
On initial fire up I could hear a strange soft rubbing noise. Apart it comes again and no, the rotor hadn’t come in contact with the stator!?

Reassemble again and everything looks ok - the rotor spins nicely and quietly and turn it on and this rubbing noise reappears.

I let it run on low for 15 minutes and the noise had almost disappeared and motor housing was cool to the touch so that was good!

I let it run all night beside my bed and it’s now almost completely silent in operation.

Fingers crossed that front bearing is ok. There is zero movement when lifting the rotor up and down and there is much less end float than other fans of this type I’ve tested.

Any Westinghouse fan owners of this type ever found missing oil wicks in their fans?

Last edited on Tue Jan 9th, 2018 08:17 pm by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2018 12:57 am
  PMQuoteReply
29th Post
Levi Mevis
Guest
 

Joined: Tue Feb 24th, 2015
Location: Elkhart, Indiana USA
Status: 
Offline
The noises you were hearing was probably the sound of the bearings being dry yet, and then the oil was finally soaking into the bearings which is why the motor finally quieted down for you.

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Wed Jan 10th, 2018 04:00 am
  PMQuoteReply
30th Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Levi Mevis wrote: The noises you were hearing was probably the sound of the bearings being dry yet, and then the oil was finally soaking into the bearings which is why the motor finally quieted down for you.
Thanks for your suggestion.  I’m sure you’re right, those bearings needed more time to absorb the oil.
She’s a very quiet fan now.  I’ll have to keep an eye on it though, at least for the short term.

James... :-)

Last edited on Wed Jan 10th, 2018 04:00 am by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

 Posted: Sat Jan 20th, 2018 09:50 am
  PMQuoteReply
31st Post
James Rand
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Dec 21st, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline









Just landed another Revelair desk fan. This time, we’ve got a big 16 incher in the workshop.

Mid to late 50s. She was a little rougher than I’d hoped with some chrome loss to the cage.

Pull down, re-wire, gearbox clean out and repack, motor lube and lots of cleaning! :-)

This fan seems to be a low hour unit with very little motor end float and mint looking oscillation gears. The run down time is very long - those bearings seem to be very happy.

Very smooth and quiet - love these Revelair’s - real work horse units. Those big 16 inch fans really push some air!

Last edited on Sat Jan 20th, 2018 10:15 pm by James Rand

Back To Top PMQuoteReply  

 Posted: Mon Jan 22nd, 2018 01:09 am
  PMQuoteReply
32nd Post
Christopher Harding
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Dec 25th, 2014
Location: Concord, New Hampshire USA
Status: 
Offline
Great fans! Really love the pedestal, thanks for sharing!

Back To Top PMQuoteReply

Current time is 11:42 am  
AFCA Forums > Antique Fan Collectors Association > Post-1950 (Vintage) > * New member introduction + new fan arrivals. :-) Top



Beige Theme By: Di @ UltraBB
UltraBB 1.17 Copyright © 2007-2008 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.2607 seconds (18% database + 82% PHP). 33 queries executed.