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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 02:24 am
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Rachel Dalthorp
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Hello, I bought this fan today at an Estate Sale.  I came home to research it and read about a cat getting killed in one.  I really don't want to keep it around.  Anyone interested?  I bought it because it runs so perfectly, I hadn't seen that in an old fan before.  Editing to add price.  I'd like $350.00 plus shipping for it.  I believe the same model is listed as sold for $450.00 on this website.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 02:27 am
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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 02:34 am
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All items for sale must be priced. No "offer" type ads are allowed.

In 50 years collecting antique fans I have never known of any animal killed by a fan.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 02:39 am
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price pm sent

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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 02:56 am
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I edited the original list and added the price 

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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2018 03:17 am
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Thank you.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 02:21 am
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Rachel Dalthorp
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Thank you to those of you who took the time to let me know the value of this fan (or to school me on how "laughable" my post was). If any of you live in the Oklahoma City metro area and are interested in picking up a free fan, send me a PM and I'll leave it outside by my front door for you to pick up, maybe you can do something with it. I'll retire from my short venture into vintage fans and stick with my day job as a physician.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 05:27 am
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Hey Rachel,

I hope you haven't felt discouraged by anything anyone in the AFCA has expressed regarding the value of your fan.  As with anything collectable, its value is determined in part by how rare it is.  The Emerson 29646 is commonly known as Emerson's workhorse.  This is an extremely well-built fan.  I'd venture to say that most of those manufactured are still in existence.  It was also probably the most ubiquitous of the Emersons.  

I'm fairly new to fan collecting.  I've been doing it for about 3 years.  I've owned a couple of the 29646 models.  One I got from an antique store for $55.00.  That was an excellent deal.  The other I bought from a fellow collector for $100.00, which also wasn't bad consider the shape that it was in.

Condition also has a lot to do with value.  Your fan appears to be in very good condition.  It might fetch your asking price if it were in great original condition or if it had been thoroughly restored.  Restoring these fans can raise their value considerably, but it's not hard to understand why when you consider that a proper restoration can take 50-75 hours of work.  At a nominal rate of $10.00 per hour, that's $500.00 - $750.00 in just labor.

I suspect that if you saw another 29646 sold between club members for $450.00 it had been given some TLC.

Anyway, I hope that no one here made you feel insulted.  Most of the people in this club are truly outstanding people.  In my experience these people will bend over backwards for guests as well as other members.  I, for one, appreciate your offering your fan for sale on our site.  If you don't find any takers here, I recommend EBay.  A lot of members also use EBay.  Put a starting bid on your fan that you can live with and let the market drive what it's worth.

Please stick around, particularly if you have interest in fan collecting.

---Darrell

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 05:45 am
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As someone who recently went from a non paying guest to member, I'd like to formally apologize if anyone if any members made you feel insulted because of your post. There is a stigma of some members on the forum who are first to lash out when it comes to Guests trying to sell fans or find value for fans on the forum. I've never understood this fear, because no matter the asking price someone posts, we should embrace every guest who joins the site. These BB/SC fans from the 1920s and 1930s are surfacing much less than they used to, and if anything more than an act of self-preservation, the AFCA should welcome any person with an interest in old fans.

The funniest thing about this is the people who quoted your price as "laughable" would be the first ones to snatch that fan off of your doorstep.

We can call prices and values on fans as a standard as much as we'd like, but the truth is that something is worth what someone would pay for it. There are few that would buy a fan like this for $250 with no qualms, whereas members here are more used to finding these 29646's at $50-100 at an estate sale or auction. I personally bought my first fan, a 28646, for $75 from a Craigslist person about 4 years ago.

I sincerely hope you decide to sell the fan for at least something, or better yet, keep it. There are very experienced persons here who are more than happy to help you regardless of guest status or not. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions, because from the things this association has taught me, I can help you.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 06:34 am
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THE CAGE ISN'T  TO PROTECT ANIMALS OR PEOPLE it is to protect the blades!!
If you are concerned about it get some small  hardware cloth at the hardware or lumber store and  make a screen  to keep thing out.
 Do a service job on that fan and it will last another 100 years.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 10:53 am
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The damage has been done here and it's an illustration of something I've never agreed with.   How does a visitor know what to ask for a fan they've found?  Are we going to complain that a fan is not priced if a visitor wants to sell a Paragon they've found?  I think not, and I believe afca members would go out of their way to insure that Paragon would realize a fair value.  It's happened before when a Dayton Spin start showed up on the forum.  Years ago I posted a high dollar fan for sale here, didn't price it, and no one complained.   If we want "barn fresh" fans to be posted here instead of ebay we should consider modifying our rules somehow and figure out a way to offer a price range of particular fans to guests.  Maybe they should be directed to the "pre-1950" section for value questions.  At any rate, this is not sometimes perceived as a friendly forum when the "post price" rule is broken and the visitor is jumped on.  Just like having a bad experience I had with a car dealership, that dealership will never be patronized again. 

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 12:00 pm
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John Trier wrote: The damage has been done here and it's an illustration of something I've never agreed with.   How does a visitor know what to ask for a fan they've found?  Are we going to complain that a fan is not priced if a visitor wants to sell a Paragon they've found?  I think not, and I believe afca members would go out of their way to insure that Paragon would realize a fair value.  It's happened before when a Dayton Spin start showed up on the forum.  Years ago I posted a high dollar fan for sale here, didn't price it, and no one complained.   If we want "barn fresh" fans to be posted here instead of ebay we should consider modifying our rules somehow and figure out a way to offer a price range of particular fans to guests.  Maybe they should be directed to the "pre-1950" section for value questions.  At any rate, this is not sometimes perceived as a friendly forum when the "post price" rule is broken and the visitor is jumped on.  Just like having a bad experience I had with a car dealership, that dealership will never be patronized again. Very well said.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 05:02 pm
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Alec Burns wrote: As someone who recently went from a non paying guest to member, I'd like to formally apologize if anyone if any members made you feel insulted because of your post. There is a stigma of some members on the forum who are first to lash out when it comes to Guests trying to sell fans or find value for fans on the forum. I've never understood this fear, because no matter the asking price someone posts, we should embrace every guest who joins the site. These BB/SC fans from the 1920s and 1930s are surfacing much less than they used to, and if anything more than an act of self-preservation, the AFCA should welcome any person with an interest in old fans.

The funniest thing about this is the people who quoted your price as "laughable" would be the first ones to snatch that fan off of your doorstep.

We can call prices and values on fans as a standard as much as we'd like, but the truth is that something is worth what someone would pay for it. There are few that would buy a fan like this for $250 with no qualms, whereas members here are more used to finding these 29646's at $50-100 at an estate sale or auction. I personally bought my first fan, a 28646, for $75 from a Craigslist person about 4 years ago.

I sincerely hope you decide to sell the fan for at least something, or better yet, keep it. There are very experienced persons here who are more than happy to help you regardless of guest status or not. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions, because from the things this association has taught me, I can help you.
Those people would be the first to snatch it up and you would see it at the next meet with a huge price tag on it or on ebay. 
Way too many memebers here are kinda harsh to guests and its not helping our community at all. We need to be inviting to guests or they wont join and will spread negative reviews of this organization. I understand the few guests that come here just for a free appraisal get annoying but not all guests are like this and some actually want to start collecting fans.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 11th, 2018 05:39 pm
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It could be suggested that  the value seeker  check out  Ebay ,Collectors Weekly, Etsy  etc to get a idea of value !!!

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Charlie Forster wrote: It could be suggested that  the value seeker  check out  Ebay ,Collectors Weekly, Etsy  etc to get a idea of value !!!
Or maybe there should be a dedicated and reliable organization for fan collecting enthusiasts that could provide honest advice to other collectors as well as the general population  :D

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This would be a good idea the problem with it is to get people  to come together to do it.
What I do see is a  fan will bring more on ebay that you can find the same one locally and without shipping..

Darrell Koller wrote: Charlie Forster wrote: It could be suggested that  the value seeker  check out  Ebay ,Collectors Weekly, Etsy  etc to get a idea of value !!!
Or maybe there should be a dedicated and reliable organization for fan collecting enthusiasts that could provide honest advice to other collectors as well as the general population  :D

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 Posted: Fri Jan 12th, 2018 04:50 am
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Seems like my post has generated some discussion amongst your group so I’m going to share my impression of this resource with you so that you can get an idea of the experience I’ve had as a guest on your site.  First of all, I’m a real person, this is me.  Most of you wouldn’t speak to me in person the way you did in PM’s.  -- unsolicited criticism is not taken as constructive-- 


I’m a physician in private practice in Moore, Oklahoma.  I enjoy going to estate sales and thrift stores and collecting interesting antiques and furniture.  I found the fan at an estate sale for $100.00.  I was impressed by how well it ran for being almost 100 years old.  When I started researching it, I read about some of the dangers (yes, debatable to some of you) with animals and kids.  I have 3 sons and a cat and dog.  My cat is purebred (inbreed) and I’ve witnessed him attempt to stick his paw in a box fan so I wouldn’t trust him with this fan.  One of you called me out and stated that no animals have been killed by the fan.  However, you have an entire thread on fan injuries on this list serve, perhaps it’s a form of humor for you fan-attics. 
Once I decided I didn’t want to keep it I thought I would post it on this site, since it’s full of collectors who might appreciate it, or want to fix it up.  I posted to see if anyone had an interest and was told I MUST list a price, so I found something similar and went $100.00 under that.  
Someone cautioned me that I couldn’t make a side business out of reselling fans.  That’s good to know since I'm not very successful http://www.balancewomenshealth.com  😊
I never posted asking for a value.   Several of you wanted me to know that you could have found the same fan for $25-65 bucks.  I few of you were encouraging and I appreciate that but I'm not real concerned about the money, hence the offer to give it to one of you who collect.  A couple of you are in Wichita and It’s a 2.5 hour drive but I’d be happy to take it to my office and you can pick it up some time, just call 405-378-2727 and let us know you would like to have it.   My office address is 1105 SW 30th Court in Moore OK.  I don’t have time to list on e-bay or anywhere else. 
Anyway, interesting experience with you guys.  I’m going to keep my eyes out for these Paragon and Dayton Spin fans you speak of.  😊

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 Posted: Fri Jan 12th, 2018 05:02 am
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Bravo! Well said.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 12th, 2018 05:22 am
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We have a long term member in Oklahoma City. I sent him this string. I expect he'll be in touch. Thank you for your gift.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 12th, 2018 05:56 am
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Rachel,
 Fyi that fan and a lot of the old fans have the option of being mounted on a wall 90 degrees of  setting on a desk or shelf. when the base of yours is mounted on the wall  the wing nut on the neck can be loosen  and you can point the blades any direction you would like. with the base to the wall you can set the  motor and blades  the same as they are now or angle it down if you mount it hi.
. there is a wheel on the back bottom   that  serrated  part  you can turn it and it will increases or decrease the amount of swing  for the oscillation  on the neck there is a screw that is spring loaded and  you pull it  then  you  can change the location of the oscillation.
the serrated wheel and that spring loaded  bolt may need some oil to get them moving.
 By mounting it on the wall up hi enough it will put it out of harms way.
I think you would like it  that way home or office!.
Some mount the fan on a board like they use  for mounting animal trophy's and then mount that on the wall.
Make sure its a good spot to mount it as the fan is heavy.
 Tom Newcity will tell you the Emerson 29646 is the best fan ever made !!!
 That fan would look nice in a doctors office.
Hope I didnt confuse you

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 Posted: Fri Jan 12th, 2018 02:05 pm
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Charlie Forster wrote: Rachel,
 Fyi that fan and a lot of the old fans have the option of being mounted on a wall 90 degrees of  setting on a desk or shelf.
That's what I would do! I have a G.E. Vortalex mounted on the wall in my garage.

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