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 Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2018 12:02 am
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David Hoatson
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I bought an Emerson CF24 ceiling fan on eBay that was advertised as a fernleaf. A nice fan. Sometime in its past, the brass nose cone must have been smashed, so the owner added a fernleaf ball and switch.
I plan to convert it back. One blade iron had been welded and is not at the correct angle. Anyone have one?

Also, I may see if I can get some brass switch covers made. If I do, I'll make extras.

It would be nice if someone made new switches.


As delivered:




Ball removed:






Repro cover added:



A real fernleaf:



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 Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2018 12:55 am
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Lucas Beshara
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Hey David. I’ll take your fern leaf ball if you decide to sell and also the repro switch cover once made. I’ve got a fern leaf missing all that stuff:down:
I may have an iron we could do some horse trading. What degree? and does it have the center detent?

Thanks

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 Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2018 11:11 am
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David Hoatson
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Lucas Beshara wrote: Hey David. I’ll take your fern leaf ball if you decide to sell and also the repro switch cover once made. I’ve got a fern leaf missing all that stuff:down:
I may have an iron we could do some horse trading. What degree? and does it have the center detent?

Thanks

I'll keep you in mind. 

The irons have a casting number, but no degrees. 3 have the detent hole and one doesn't. What is that about? Why not use all identical irons?

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 Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2018 01:10 pm
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All my Emerson irons have a degree cast in them. But they can be 14 or 15 degrees but I’ve seen both with that cast into the iron. The detent usually go opposite each other and do serve a purpose but don’t know what it is. 



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 Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2018 01:26 pm
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John Andrews was selling those spun brass switch covers at Texas Ceiling Fans. Finding the switch is the big issue.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 14th, 2018 01:38 pm
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David Hoatson
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Stan Adams wrote: John Andrews was selling those spun brass switch covers at Texas Ceiling Fans. Finding the switch is the big issue.
Thanks. 

I have a switch, but could use a couple more. 

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 Posted: Sun Jul 15th, 2018 03:00 pm
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Emerson tried to make blade changing “idiot-proof” by requiring that the blades always be installed in the same pairs to retain the original balance. Back in the day, people would often remove and store the blades during the winter months, leaving the fan motor installed on the ceiling for the light fixture. In the spring, the blades would be reinstalled.   In a correct set of blades/irons, there should be two with the hole in the heel and two that are completely flat....obviously, if one attempted to install the flat iron on the rotor in a place that has the raised “bump”, it would not seat properly. One af your blade irons has already been replaced, as you have one extra with the hole.

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David Hoatson
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Chuck Abernathy wrote: Emerson tried to make blade changing “idiot-proof” by requiring that the blades always be installed in the same pairs to retain the original balance. Back in the day, people would often remove and store the blades during the winter months, leaving the fan motor installed on the ceiling for the light fixture. In the spring, the blades would be reinstalled.   In a correct set of blades/irons, there should be two with the hole in the heel and two that are completely flat....obviously, if one attempted to install the flat iron on the rotor in a place that has the raised “bump”, it would not seat properly. One af your blade irons has already been replaced, as you have one extra with the hole.

Makes sense. I need to replace one iron that had been bent or broken, then welded at the wrong angle. Are the CF 24 irons different that the longnose irons? When I get time, I'll compare them. I see that the more modern Emerson irons have an angle in degrees cast in, while the CF24 ones don't.

I'm looking into getting brass switch covers made. John Andrews at Texas Ceiling Fans had 25 made a while ago, but he sold them all. 

Does the CF24 have two speeds, controlled by how the windings in the stator are energized, since there is no speed coil. The switch has "Off" plus two other settings. What is the proper way to operate this? Is the 1st position for starting only?

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Chuck Abernathy
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As I understand the CF24, the first position is “start”, the second is “run”.Also, I think the unmarked irons were14 degrees. You can measure the angle with a protractor...I think a later iron of the same pitch will work (of course, it must be the long-neck iron), if you can not find an unmarked one.
The fern leaf fans used the long-necked irons to reveal more of the ornate face plate. The “long nose” fan used both length irons, the short irons for a 52” Fan, the longer ones for a 56” fan.

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