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 Posted: Sun Aug 4th, 2019 03:16 am
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Roy Smith
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Free parts. Bad condition. Motor caught on fire, 4 months ago. Rusty, with a hint of Robin-Egg blue, barely visible. When extended to full height, the blue color is visible. Switch is good, but rusty. No front badge. Front and rear guard mesh, intact, but rusty. Stop collars functional, but rusty. Fan surround, intact, with one very small dent/ding in the lower-right, front-most ring. Wheels/axle/frame, intact and functional. Motor housing and brackets, intact. One fiberglass blade has a crack. The other two blades are solid. Rear Westinghouse ID band, intact, but has a covering of tan paint (?), Serial # 7517EJ (?).
Recipient pays shipping from 20112. No handling fees. Free to a good home.
I'm about to toss it in the recycle bin, or make wall clocks out of the surround components. Hate to see a 65-plus year piece of Americana go to waste, but I'm unwilling to pay for a new motor winding. Made in the USA, of course.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 6th, 2019 02:24 pm
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Do you still have the parts? If so let me know what the shipping is and I'll send you via PP friends and family.
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 Posted: Wed Aug 7th, 2019 12:39 am
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Are there any parts, in particular, that hold your interest? I have the entire fan. I disassembled the motor from the frame and removed the fan blade from the motor's shaft. The switch was removed, too, but I left the wires going to the motor intact. All said, it's in four parts/assemblies.-
*The main frame, with rear mesh guard
*The motor, with wires and switch attached
*The front mesh guard
*The blade assembly, including the motor-shaft mount piece with the three blades, attached.
The motor is, literally, toast. I did not attempt to disassemble the motor housing. I witnessed the fire, unplugged it immediately, and blew the fire out with my own wind (aka lungs and lips).
All components, have oxidation/rust. I took it from an ex-girlfriend, about 25 years ago, because she was going to throw it out and I thought it was a cool fan (no pun intended). I used it, sporadically, until it gave up the Ghost.
Shipping of the main housing, would require a crate or heavy-duty, large, cardboard box. I'm perfectly capable of building a secure, safe crate for transport, but it would probably be pricey to ship. I'm willing to separate the fan housing from the lower legs/wheel assembly to slightly reduce the size/weight of individual packages, but that means there would be an additional parcel to ship. Also, the motor, itself, is heavy.
If you would like to proceed, I'm all ears. Pics, are available, but I think they surpass this site's limitations. 
Thank you for your interest in keeping America's Golden manufacturing efforts, alive. I have a Harley, or two, or three, myself.-Ride on.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 9th, 2019 12:35 pm
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STILL HAVE THE SWITCH? 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 10th, 2019 02:07 am
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Yes. I still have all components / assemblies.
The retaining nut, is on the switch. It's a multi-speed switch, with a ratcheting speed-change function. I can liberate the switch from the motor with a pair of snips. The switch was functional when the motor went South, but it's dirty.
Flat-rate shipping via USPS is about $11, for a small package, iirc. If you have an immediate use for the switch, PM me your contact info and/or mailing address.
Actually, I don't care about 11 bucks. If you truly have a use for it, it's yours. I'd love to see something from this magnificent piece live on, and contribute to the revival of something else. Wasting time over 11 dollars, is silly.
I'm still considering making wall clocks out of the surround pieces. A cut wheel, some rust remover, media blasting and powder coat, would make them look nice with large clock hands. Perhaps, a machine-turned Aluminum background. I could make, at least, two clocks.
Standing by.

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 Posted: Mon Aug 12th, 2019 03:27 pm
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How big is the crack on the blade?

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 Posted: Tue Aug 13th, 2019 03:13 am
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More of a tear, than a crack. It's fiberglass. About 1.5" from outer-most edge, then returning to the edge. Intermediate stage of a chip, or a piece missing, about 1.5" diameter. The damage is to a flat portion of the blade. Applying resin, clamping it between Saran Wrap, and sanding smooth to, at least very closely approximate being a balanced blade, is feasible. Skill level = intermediate to advanced.
Fiberglass repair experience, would be useful, for maintaining balance of the blade assembly. 
I repaired fiberglass canoes, before Al gore invented the internet. I learned the required techniques, from a Public Library. I do not have the desire to repair the blade for a cooked motor.  
The fan is near 5' tall, fully extended.
The horror show, is the motor.
The rest, is media blast and paint / powder coat. I made reference marks during dis-assembly, black "X" marks. They are not defects.
Coincidentally, a friend called me, yesterday, after he assembled a new media blasting cabinet. Wall clocks-from-an-old-fan, is getting very tempting. That's not a threat. I'm holding off on cutting it up for a project du-jour, in hopes that parts might be put towards a restoration. For me, it's not about the money. It's about preserving classic pieces. I'll donate, to an extent, but at some point, custom wall clocks with a Jet-age appeal, will take over and a cut wheel will be applied.
This is an attempt to pay it forward for all the parts, advice and patience others have shared, with me. 
However, the clock is ticking, so to speak.









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 Posted: Thu Aug 15th, 2019 01:26 am
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Checking in. Checking interest. I'm patient, but not without limits.Standing by.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 24th, 2019 05:14 pm
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Fan blade assembly has shipped. I hope it brings a little happiness.
All other components are still available.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 09:48 am
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I'd like to have the Motor if available . Glad to pay whatever you want and shipping, Thanks . Rick Huckabee 910 West Grove Ave Lufkin , TX 75904

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 Posted: Tue Aug 27th, 2019 10:11 am
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If the switch works and isn’t committed, I’ll take it.  Just let me know and I’ll send my address and shipping pmt. 

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 03:31 am
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Motor is available. It's burnt, cooked, fried and in-operable. Hexagon housing is intact, with oxidation, and not disturbed since original assembly (other than the brief fire). I see you included your address. I'm not looking to make a profit. Shipping reimbursement, is sufficient. Be advised, it'll be Saturday before I get to the post office. We'll go from there.

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 Posted: Wed Aug 28th, 2019 03:34 am
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The switch, has been spoken for. It's shipping out, this week.Good luck in your quest.

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29th, 2019 02:58 am
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It is very kind of you to offer these parts; I am always happy when I see the generosity among us collectors. You may consider joining up, pretty good bunch here! 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 31st, 2019 03:18 am
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Thank you for the kind words. I'm not selfless. I receive the intrinsic reward of helping others. It feels... really good. Far beyond the couple-a bucks for the cost of shipping.
When asked about insurance during the shipping of the blade assembly, I countered, "What's a one-of-a-kind piece worth?" The kid behind the counter simply said, "That'll be $xx.oo" I'm all about the preservation of unique, rare, functional and innovative pieces when Made in the USA carried weight. Harley-Davidsons, a '56 Chevy, Zenith radios,  Army foot-lockers made of wood in the 40's, steel kitchen cabinets, green-colored DeWalt tools, Stanley miter boxes with a back-saw, or fans. It's all good.
If any of these components contribute to a completed project, it'll be worth my time and effort, because, ultimately, I have been rewarded.

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 Posted: Sat Aug 31st, 2019 08:42 pm
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Back when DeWalt was not cheap Chinese junk...

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 Posted: Sun Sep 1st, 2019 12:53 am
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OMG! I have one of those radial-arm saws. It has a more square shape to the arm, though. I think it's from the late 50's. I have the anti-kickback pawl and the folding shelf assembly that goes on the front. Original, rubber dust deflector, too. It has an 8" blade, and I replaced the switch about 20 years ago. My friend's father was the original owner. He gave it to me before he passed away, over 25 years ago. It's a prised possession and I've kept it intact in honor of the good man who passed it down to me. Most likely, it'll still be functional, when I pass it to the next deserving owner in about 20 years, I hope. Years ago, radial arm saws fell out of favor. Now, it's cordless, compound miter saws with lasers and dust-collection that actually sucks up the dust. Thanks for sharing the pic. 

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 Posted: Sun Sep 1st, 2019 01:03 am
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Motor has shipped.I sent you a private message with the tracking #.
Rebuild the motor and put it to use. Shipping cost, is on me. Forget reimbursement for shipping. Buy a decent bottle of wine and share it with a friend.
Good luck.

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 Posted: Mon Sep 2nd, 2019 04:58 am
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Switch and thumb/set screws, have shipped. I sent you a private message with the tracking #.
Rock on.

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 Posted: Wed Sep 11th, 2019 12:50 am
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Fair warning. I'm cutting the fan surround from the frame, this weekend. I need the space in my shop. Most of the vital organs have been harvested... 
-Switch
-Thumb screws
-Motor
-Fan blade assembly
I suspect the balance of the components/assemblies, would be impractical to ship. So, unless you're near Northern VA, or are in desperate need and willing to pay shipping, this Ol' Gal will be put to use, elsewhere, with a different purpose.
Let me know.

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