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 Posted: Sat Feb 22nd, 2020 10:22 pm
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Arno Nühm
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Hello all,
I am looking for a working or broken Emerson B-Jr or similar looking as the one below
it would be nice if it would have goldish blades but apart from that I am looking forward to any offers close to the one
thanks a lot
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 Posted: Tue Feb 25th, 2020 11:57 am
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just an update: it doesnt has to be the 'Junior' version. I think there is also a regular Emerson which kinda looks like on the photo but with goldish blades

looking forward to your offers

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 Posted: Tue Feb 25th, 2020 01:01 pm
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The fan shown only came with steel black blades I believe, and earlier Jr's had gold paint on steel

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 Posted: Tue Feb 25th, 2020 01:03 pm
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Here is a 1921 JuniorThere are some around with real brass blades, but those are recent additions


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thank you Steven. that comes close (especially because of the blades)

is there also one with 8 spokes in front of the blades? I only have seen some with 4 (as in your example) or 6 (as in my top example). is there such as thing like a Emerson Jr with 8 spokes and golden blades (real brass maybe)?

Thanks in advance

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Juniors wee made for years & there were many variations, came in 8-9-10 in sizes. Stationary & Oscillating. Recently brass blades have been made

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I have a few, all needing some attention -I have the switch to the center 9" Model -The red badges are  really niceWill sell pending checking condition/running condition.

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8 S wires (spokes) would be a 12" fan I think

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interesting and thanks for your offer Steven!

however the first two from the left have only 4 spokes (I hope that is the correct term). I mean these black curved metals at the case of fan in front of the blades.

I would be looking for 8. so far Lawrence in this forum made a nice offer (with 6) but not sure if its still available

Edit: ah. thanks! it is a 12" then. with 8 spokes. that's the difference then also

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1936 - - single speed oscillator - I need to put a new (old style) power cord on it

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That is a 10" Fan

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I have 2, so I can sell one

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thanks. a combination would be what I am looking for:

- these thinner 4 golden blades (the closest is the one on the left from the tree of yours)
- 8 spokes
- the badge from the middle of the three
- size not sure if 10" or 12"

and if possible that I can polish them that the blades and the stand become shiny again

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This a 10" "Golden Jubilee" fan - - made in the 1940s

A 12" with Brass "Parker Blades"

Attached Image (viewed 178 times):

29646 Restored Older front.jpg

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 Posted: Wed Jun 24th, 2020 04:30 pm
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BTW, these are NFS, just file photos to get an idea of what you want -71666

21666

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21666 nice bldes FeeBay.jpg

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The last 3 are all 12" Oscillators, earlier brass blades & brass cages are going to cost some bucks. 6 blades fans are "hot" right now

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Steven P Dempsey wrote: This a 10" "Golden Jubilee" fan - - made in the 1940s

A 12" with Brass "Parker Blades"

 
the second photo "A 12" with Brass "Parker Blades"" should be my dream fan. thanks again Steven
if somebody has this for sale let me know

probably not often for sale?

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the second photo "A 12" with Brass "Parker Blades"" should be my dream fan. thanks again Steven
if somebody has this for sale let me know

probably not often for sale?


Arno, the fan above is a 12" Emerson 29646, probably the most common of Emerson brass blade fans and they come up for sale often.   If that is your "dream fan" it's a good one.   Also look for the older but similar 27646 and 24646 Types that are nearly identical but the 29646 was made in much larger numbers from 1922 through 1936 but brass blades were last offered in 1930 on Emerson fans.   The 29646 came with the brass blades painted with gold paint but they are solid brass under the paint and can be stripped and polished out.  Below are some similar models including the non-oscillator models.   The last digit in the Type No. is the radius of the blade so a 6 would be 6" radius or 12" diameter.   8 would be a 16" fan, etc.

The 10" Golden Jubilee is somewhat similar to the B-Jr. fans in ways and has BRONZE blades on most years but aluminum on some years.   It was made from the 40s through the mid 1950s and is a single speed fan.

24645 (1917-19),  24646 (1917-18),  24648 (1917-19),  24666 (1917-18),  24668 (1917-18)  Oscillator, new cone shaped base (except for 24645 which used step base with thicker bottom flange), steel cages for 1918.   Change from cast hub to stamped hub blade during production.   Carrying handle added to 12 and 16" fans for 1917


26645 (1920-22),  26646 (1919-22),  26648 (1919-22)  Non-oscillator, modified cone base with felt base plate.  Steel cages from here on forward.


27645 (1920-22),  27646 (1919-22),  27666 (1919-22),  27648 (1919-22),  27668 (1920-22)  Oscillator


28645 (1922-23),  28646 (1922-1937),  28648 (1922-23)  Non-oscillator


29645 (1922-25?), 29646 (1922-1936), 29666 (lg. motor)(1922 only),  29648 (1922-c.1929),  29668 (1922-at least 1926, probably through '27)  Oscillator (71666 replaces 29666 in 1923)

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Steven P Dempsey wrote: 1936 - - single speed oscillator - I need to put a new (old style) power cord on it

Shoot me a price on this guy, Steven.Cheers,
Bill

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Let me test - - the cord was broken, this is a earlier model with no capacitor, next year (1937) was the cap model.

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This is a 77646AA restored, 1936 - - I have 2, both arrived with some damage, so I need fresh photos & test.

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77646AK was the cap model in 1937

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Steve Stephens wrote:


thanks a lot Steve for all the information! I know now all I need for the model i need

I will now have my eyes open for that model but of course if there is someone who wants to sell a 29646 or alike as depicted above preferrably a 12" let met know and make an offer!


how much are they abouts in good or ok condition?

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Arno Nühm wrote:
how much are they abouts in good or ok condition?
I don't follow fan pricing but take a look on ebay and see what the SOLD fans have gone for.  Throw out the high and low prices and compare the others.  Read the descriptions well and look at the posted photos well.   Learn more about the model(s) you want and make a folder with photos from different sources including ebay so you can later compare the fans.   I don't currently have any fans listed for sale on my blog but you can get an idea of what i sell my fans for-
https://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2017/08/antique-fans-for-sale.html

The last fan I sold, the 24646 at the top of the listed fans, needed cleaning but, otherwise, was in excellent condition with all proper parts and everything working.   It's a model that was two before the 29646.   Good luck on your hunt.  Be ready to jump if you see a fan that looks good but also be patient so you can get a fan that is good.   I look for fans for me that are as unmolested as possible and don't appear to have had (needed) a lot of work done.

Finally, its' up to YOU to instruct or help the seller get the fan packed knowing that fans are usually very brittle (cast iron) and easy to damage (flimsy blades and cages).  

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Steve makes quite a lot of good points, but first I would post an add for a brass blade 29646 here in the BST. Shipping from eBay is a risky proposition, but most members here know how to pack and would offer you a fair price. These fans are relatively common, so I'm sure someone would be willing to set you up with one.
Steve Stephens wrote: Arno Nühm wrote:
how much are they abouts in good or ok condition?
I don't follow fan pricing but take a look on ebay and see what the SOLD fans have gone for.  Throw out the high and low prices and compare the others.  Read the descriptions well and look at the posted photos well.   Learn more about the model(s) you want and make a folder with photos from different sources including ebay so you can later compare the fans.   I don't currently have any fans listed for sale on my blog but you can get an idea of what i sell my fans for-
https://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2017/08/antique-fans-for-sale.html

The last fan I sold, the 24646 at the top of the listed fans, needed cleaning but, otherwise, was in excellent condition with all proper parts and everything working.   It's a model that was two before the 29646.   Good luck on your hunt.  Be ready to jump if you see a fan that looks good but also be patient so you can get a fan that is good.   I look for fans for me that are as unmolested as possible and don't appear to have had (needed) a lot of work done.

Finally, its' up to YOU to instruct or help the seller get the fan packed knowing that fans are usually very brittle (cast iron) and easy to damage (flimsy blades and cages).  

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29646's are common & come in all kinds of price ranges, brass blade models cost more - good clean examples with straight blades & good paint $200+ shipping = heavy, Rusty steel = 100 + same shipping minus small parts (oscillator linkage, etc)
Full blown restorations = 300+ shipping, Just a good brass balanced blade = 150+.

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Steven,
Have you had a chance to look at the 77646 yet? I'm also looking a 77646AS oiled bronzed color with brass badges.
Perhaps a twofer?
Cheers,
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