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 Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 08:43 pm
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Rob Duffy
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 Looking for an early 12" Westinghouse BB/BC model 164864 6 blade stamped steel oscillator with brass tag on the motor and brass banner badge on the cage. Must have three speeds.

Would like it to have most of it's paint. Doesn't have to be polished and shiny, just in decent mechanical and physical shape with most of it's paint. Can be restored.

Please post pictures here.

Edit: A stump in good working order will also do as I have blade, cage and struts for one.

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 Posted: Fri Jul 16th, 2010 12:00 am
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 Rob - HERE IS A 4 WING THAT I HAVE AND WILL PART WITH. I can send more photos if your interested. $250.00

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 Posted: Fri Jul 16th, 2010 12:07 am
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 Very very nice looking fan but I really am after a 6-wing. I do not have a single 6-wing fan in my collection.
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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2010 04:39 pm
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 Would also buy a 16" if anyone has one available.
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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2010 08:16 pm
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 Rob sent you a email
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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2010 08:33 pm
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 I've got one. If you're still looking for one, I can post some pics after I get off work. -Scott
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 Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2010 08:35 pm
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 Scott Mackay wrote: I've got one. If you're still looking for one, I can post some pics after I get off work. -Scott
Please do.
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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 05:16 am
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 The fan is just as I found it with nice original felt. It looks as though the power cord has been replaced, and the head wire wrapped with electrical tape (doesn't look too bad). Seems to run and oscilate fine. Just gave it a cursory cleaning, and a light polish to the brass. Don't really know what the market is... $225 plus shipping?

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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 05:17 am
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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 05:20 am
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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 05:21 am
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 a final pic

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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 05:29 am
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 Could you get a picture where the headwire enters the motor?
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 Here's a pic of the headwire.

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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 08:07 am
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 Scott Mackay wrote: Here's a pic of the headwire.
Ahh so it does have the cap that comes off. :up:
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 Posted: Wed Jul 28th, 2010 10:57 pm
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 Actually the "G" suffix motors had steel cages with small center emblems,

but they look cool with earlier brass cages [ used thru about "D" suffix

models].  The "G" and "I" motors are the 3 wire no centrifugal switch

motors.
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 Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 06:43 am
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 Bill Voigt wrote: Actually the "G" suffix motors had steel cages with small center emblems,

but they look cool with earlier brass cages [ used thru about "D" suffix

models].  The "G" and "I" motors are the 3 wire no centrifugal switch

motors.
Are you positive G models didn't come with brass cages?
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 Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 07:47 am
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 Posted: Thu Jul 29th, 2010 03:53 pm
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 I agree, it looks far better with the older brass cage. The headwire will be super easy to replace, as this is the type that was factory-made to be replaced with the rear cover. I would snap this one up if I were you!
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 On a side-note, I do prefer a brass badge instead of the nickel one.
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 TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! :P
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 Posted: Sun Aug 1st, 2010 07:26 am
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 Nicholas Denney wrote: TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT! :PQuite a few people have contacted me about them. I am just waiting for pictures of the others to see which one I like best.
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 BTW - the motor tag is for a 4 blade westy - Here are #s I have seen "in the wild"

4 blade - 164848 (with various suffix letters)

6 blade - 164864 (with various suffix letters)

Here are #s I have seen "in the wild"

164848 -- 4 blade Westy osc 12 in - 100-110 V
164849                                          111-120 V
164848B
164848C
164848G - 4 blade Westy osc 12 in
164848I
164848K

6 blade -

164864 -- 6 blade Westy osc 12 in - 100-110 V
164864A
164864B
164864D
164864G - 6 blade Westy osc 12 in
164864I

So several possibilities:

1) Motor tag was lost and a similar tag substituted in the distant past

and the motor is really correct for this blade & cage - in this case

the motor would be 2 wire & would have a centrifugal switch (Scott, does it? )

2) Motor is a later 6 pole motor ( 164864G, I, etc. OR 315745A) and the

tag was substituted.

3) Motor and base are indeed a 164848G, in which case burnout is imminent -

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 The motor has a rattling sound on start-up  (centrifugal start ?) but it appears to have three head wires, could both exist in the same motor? The fan has been run for  some time,  so this becomes even more interesting. Thanks, for the info Bill.

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 Posted: Sun Aug 8th, 2010 08:56 am
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 Posted: Sun Aug 8th, 2010 10:20 am
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 still none, wow I will send your pics rob of the fan I have...sorry for the delay bud.
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 Peter Garcia wrote: still none, wow I will send your pics rob of the fan I have...sorry for the delay bud.Ok. Let me know when you sent it.
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 Rob,

   I have a 16" 6-wing westy, stamped steel fan I will sell.   It needs a head wire, but has the easy access cover plate on the motor housing for replacement.  The fan does run, though noisey.   It needs some work, but should clean up fine. 

  Let me know if you are interested.

John :up:
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 John Hilliard wrote: Rob,

   I have a 16" 6-wing westy, stamped steel fan I will sell.   It needs a head wire, but has the easy access cover plate on the motor housing for replacement.  The fan does run, though noisey.   It needs some work, but should clean up fine. 

  Let me know if you are interested.

John :up:
Does it have the brass badge?
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 Rob,

  No, I think it has an aluminum badge. 

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 I think, from talking to Rob, that he is looking for a 12" Westy stamped steel 6 blade oscillator with the proper 6 pole motor and brass motor tag and brass cage banner name. Westinghouse changed to using a zinc? motor and cage badge in the later teens only to return to brass tags a few years later. Rob isn't looking for the zinc badge one or a four blade model that has had a 6 wing blade installed.
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 Steve Stephens wrote: I think, from talking to Rob, that he is looking for a 12" Westy stamped steel 6 blade oscillator with the proper 6 pole motor and brass motor tag and brass cage banner name. Westinghouse changed to using a zinc? motor and cage badge in the later teens only to return to brass tags a few years later. Rob isn't looking for the zinc badge one or a four blade model that has had a 6 wing blade installed.I would be willing to take a 16" as well but I really want one with a brass badge.
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 Replaced the head wire, and sold it on E-bay for $338. It was a two wire headwire.
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 Scott Mackay wrote: Replaced the head wire, and sold it on E-bay for $338. It was a two wire headwire.
Ok? :wondering:
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 Just saying the fan is no longer available.
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 Anyone?? :wondering:
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 In two months, I guess not.
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 hey Rob the fan pic I showed you, how about $80.00 for it plus shipping?
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