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| Posted: Tue Aug 10th, 2010 12:39 pm |
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Peter Garcia Guest 
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ok so I just pick this one up this weekend but should have left it seeing the issues that it has. switch is obviously going to be an issue and the blade braket...well all I have to say is if anyone has any of these to spare i would be more then glad to purchase them to help this fan get completed. all help is appreciated, thanks in advance everyone. hope to get some info and answers   
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 06:59 am |
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Steve Cunningham Administrator 
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Your switch is there and that's uncommon. You need a knob for the shaft. You need two blades and brackets. I am taking a complete on (don't know if it has a switch) to Stan's asking $150.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 07:19 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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Thank you Steve for your reply but actually the other bracket and blade was in the car when I took this pic, I have all 4 its just one bracket was broken, would you know how much a bracket for this fan would be? and what would a switch knob look like to this fan? how much would tha be to? Last edited on Wed Aug 11th, 2010 07:20 am by Peter Garcia |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:08 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member 
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Perkins Switch knob and cover. Whooooa....You must of had something different....no threads at the end of your switch rod?  Attached Image (viewed 673 times): Last edited on Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:12 am by Russ Huber |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:18 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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does this mean I wont be able to get that piece for my fan? should I put more pictures of it? thank you Russ
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:30 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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Peter Garcia wrote:does this mean I wont be able to get that piece for my fan? should I put more pictures of it? thank you Russ If....the rod has no threads no big deal, with a die threads can be made piece of cake. You just need to find a Perkins rotary snap switch to rob Peter to pay Paul. the right size brass washer might work as the missing cone cover? The CF boys will tell you more...never panic dude.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:36 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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my new name should be Panicing Peter's missing fan parts...your up early or late...its like 1:35 am here in Cali
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 03:48 pm |
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Steve Cunningham Administrator
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You can get the bracket. Heck, you could send one of your brackets to a foundry and have another made. There is a pin that would have to be drilled and inserted. As for the knob, I think your speed switch shaft has a hexagonal end. You could fit any knob on the shaft with epoxy, or JBWeld. If you can borrow a knob, Master Restorer Mike Petree can make you an identical knob.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 10:51 pm |
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Chuck Abernathy AFCA Member 
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I think if you unscrew that rod, you'll find that the end is actually a hex insert that was molded inside the knob. It is just screwed on the end of a standard Century rod, I'll bet. I have the bracket you're looking for, Peter. Email me at chuck4fans@aol.com
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| Posted: Wed Aug 11th, 2010 11:05 pm |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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gosh thank you very much Chuck will do on the email to you.  how was your trip back since Sacramento fan fair with all your beautiful fans?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 01:44 am |
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Nick Rodnicki Jr Guest 
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I've attached pictures of an Open Top Century Model 15 switch rod. The copper hex end appears to be pressed on and does not unthread. Nice find Peter! 
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 02:44 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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is the close top Century fans common to? I see them every where here in LA. thank you Nick for your great exampl pictures. I'm going to have to take the top off ans ee if mine looks like your's Nick.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 03:53 am |
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Chuck Abernathy AFCA Member
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Have you tried to unscrew that hex piece from the rod, peter? You'll have to overcome a "century" of stickum, but if you twist hard, I'm sure it will pop loose, revealing a threaded end. I think I can help with that knob, too. Blessings! Chuck
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 03:56 am |
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Chuck Abernathy AFCA Member
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Oh, and go to an old lamp fixin' shop and ask for a brass "check ring" the size to fit the end of the bearing cup. The switch knob screws up against it and holds it on!
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 04:39 am |
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Nick Rodnicki Jr Guest
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Nick Rodnicki Jr wrote: I've attached pictures of an Open Top Century Model 15 switch rod. The copper hex end appears to be pressed on and does not unthread. Nice find Peter!Ok, I'm quoting myself here and correcting myself. After closer inspection the switch rod obviously started out as steel hex rod stock and was turned down to be round. The part that is copper is either copper plated or flashed copper. Peter, just twist the switch rod counter clockwise and it will unthread itself from the switch. If you take the top off the fan you can see where the switch rod attaches to the switch. Looks like Chuck has you covered on the switch knob & bracket. Just an FYI these are some of the heaviest ceiling fans out there and extremely well built. Good luck. Nick Last edited on Thu Aug 12th, 2010 04:48 am by Nick Rodnicki Jr |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 05:29 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest 
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Not being interested in ceiling fans, last night I was looking through the 1912 electrics magazine review, reprinted in a 2003 Fan Collector magazine, and it listed the Century AC ceiling fan as having a split-phase motor (!!) Is this true? I had thought that all AC ceiling fans had shaded-pole type moto0rs...shows how much I know!! How could the centrifugal switch work on such a low-speed motor?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 05:37 pm |
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Steve Cunningham Administrator
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I had a Pillsbury Century, very early. I would guess 1906. It had three centrifugal switches. Making three switches work, would be a challenge. The fan had been reowund as shaded pole. But as far as I know, none of the later open or closed top Century fans were split phase.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12th, 2010 06:03 pm |
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Chuck Abernathy AFCA Member
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I have the same fan as Steve's. The three centrifugal switches are on large flat plates just above the ornate face plate of the rotor. The weight of the plates is quite sufficient to swing them outward and break the circuit to the start windings, even at slow speeds.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 02:06 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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Chuck Abernathy wrote: I have the same fan as Steve's. The three centrifugal switches are on large flat plates just above the ornate face plate of the rotor. The weight of the plates is quite sufficient to swing them outward and break the circuit to the start windings, even at slow speeds. I have not been able to open my Century fan as of yet but when I do hopefully today or tomarrow I will post them for all to see. Thank you all for your replys and help on this fan.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2010 03:28 am |
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Chuck Abernathy AFCA Member
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You do not have to open the fan to get the switch rod out, simply grab the hex end and turn counter-clockwise. It will unscrew from the switch stem.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2010 04:25 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Man, I would LOVE to see this system! Now I want to glom a split-phase ceiling fan!! How totally cool!! Was Century the only ceiling fan maker to use a centrifugal-start motor?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2010 08:00 pm |
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Nick Rodnicki Jr Guest
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Nick Rodnicki Jr wrote: Ok, I'm quoting myself here and correcting myself. After closer inspection the switch rod obviously started out as steel hex rod stock and was turned down to be round. The part that is copper is either copper plated or flashed copper. Peter, just twist the switch rod counter clockwise and it will unthread itself from the switch. If you take the top off the fan you can see where the switch rod attaches to the switch. Looks like Chuck has you covered on the switch knob & bracket. Just an FYI these are some of the heaviest ceiling fans out there and extremely well built. Good luck. Nick Chuck Abernathy wrote: You do not have to open the fan to get the switch rod out, simply grab the hex end and turn counter-clockwise. It will unscrew from the switch stem. Chuck my friend, I'm hearing an echo from a little ways north.  Last edited on Sat Aug 14th, 2010 08:45 pm by Nick Rodnicki Jr |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 14th, 2010 08:57 pm |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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ok so I got the rod out and Chuck it is a hex screw on so that means I'm in the safe zone, Whew that was close!!!   Last edited on Sun Aug 15th, 2010 02:14 am by Peter Garcia |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15th, 2010 03:41 am |
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Chuck Abernathy AFCA Member
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Great, Peter...now what is the thread? Find a 10-32 and a 8-32 and 6-32 nut and try to see which one fits. Snap switches used a variety of threads, which is where I would get a knob for you.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15th, 2010 04:53 am |
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Nick Rodnicki Jr Guest
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Chuck, You were right. That switch rod had me fooled because virtually no parting line was visible between the hex end and the switch rod. With a little coaxing in the shop the hex end unscrewed from the switch rod to reveal 8-32 threads. Peter, did you measure 8-32 threads also? Nick  
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| Posted: Sun Aug 15th, 2010 10:15 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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Chuck Abernathy wrote: Great, Peter...now what is the thread? Find a 10-32 and a 8-32 and 6-32 nut and try to see which one fits. Snap switches used a variety of threads, which is where I would get a knob for you. Nick and Chuck I will go to home depot first thing in the morning and get the thread size and see what it is. I am so glad and happy with the response and support I am getting in making this Century fan work. to be continued tomorrow...
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17th, 2010 05:37 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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Nick Rodnicki Jr wrote: Chuck, Hey Nicjk and Chuck mine measured 8-32 I went today to the homedepot and got it.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17th, 2010 06:57 am |
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Steve Cunningham Administrator
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Peter, you can run that fan with two blades. Beware though, Century fans were very powerful.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 17th, 2010 07:44 am |
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Peter Garcia Guest
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really? can I invite the people I dont like and just as them to take a closer look at the fan while they step up to it??? J/k I have all 4 blades its just one of the brakets were broken when the seller said it slipped out of his fingers because of how heavy it was. thank you Steve for that wonderful Idea tip, I probably will just to see how it looks.
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