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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 04:17 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest 
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would like to have a vortalex again bout 2 years agao i bought a vortalex for 24.00 with no cord thought its probally fine when i got home the motor was shorted so long story short i need a motor and set screw   i have every thing else inc. speed coil switch gear box and cage . would like to know what this thing can do with a new motor 
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 04:31 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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also what color would this fan have been painted orgionally it has a cheap black gloss rattle can paint job!!!! that il be fun to remove!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 05:12 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest 
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the stators are impossible to remove on these so you will probably get the motor and casing, there are several different variations of the Vortalex so posting a pic would be helpful
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 05:42 pm |
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Jay Bernard AFCA Member 
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As Lewis said, there were different variations of the vortalex. The earliest fans had a capacitor motor (the brown and beige variety) then there was the shaded pole 6 pole motors in the 50's (teal and grey),then they had a shaded pole 6'pole with the speed taps in the motor (and a 4 wire headwire). A pic of the fan would be very helpful, along with how many conductors the headwire has. Also what size is this fan? I've got a 16" shaded pole motor with the 4 wire headwire on a parts stump.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 05:45 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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well the motor is a 2 wire and it is not a capacitor run motor i do not know the size of the blades because its been sitting in storagr for a year and i wolnt get it for a while but i think i rember it being a 16" blade??? edit: also if it helps inside the motor i seel a little litesh blue or b my computerlue spruce paint and it has a carying handle on the top of the motor and i will see if i can find a picture on my computer..... Last edited on Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 07:28 pm by Joseph Daniel |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 06:14 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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Jay Bernard wrote:As Lewis said, there were different variations of the vortalex. The earliest fans had a capacitor motor (the brown and beige variety) then there was the shaded pole 6 pole motors in the 50's (teal and grey),then they had a shaded pole 6'pole with the speed taps in the motor (and a 4 wire headwire). A pic of the fan would be very helpful, along with how many conductors the headwire has. Also what size is this fan? I've got a 16" shaded pole motor with the 4 wire headwire on a parts stump. did the earliest of earlies, the black and chrome ones have a capacitor?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 07:20 pm |
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Jay Bernard AFCA Member
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Lewis, can't believe I forgot those. The earliest vortex ( the 1939 12" 3 wing) had the shaded pole motor from the quiet blade. As far as the later black and polished fans (1940-1943? ( I think)) I'm pretty sure those were capacitor motors.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 07:40 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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the back
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 07:46 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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front
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 07:47 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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front EDIT:THE PICTURES DIDNT GO THROUGH BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FAN ON THIS LINK http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/14542.html Last edited on Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 07:53 pm by Joseph Daniel |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 08:00 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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that's gonna be the shaded 6 pole two wire one, are you sure you need a new motor? what exactly is wrong with it?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 08:26 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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its shorted out EDIT: it never worked QUITE right when i got it its high speed was a slow gentle brese eventually the motor locked up andwhen trying to change head wire and work with very short splices the heat wire broke off some where back in the motor im shure its not a bad speed coil because i hooked it up to straight 120 v bypassing the coil and it was the same thing  EDIT: if anyone has pictures of this fan restored please do not hesatate to post them.. Last edited on Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 08:37 pm by Joseph Daniel |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 08:54 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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that sounds like it may have just desperately needed oil, motors don't lock up because they burn out, they lock up because the bearings are gummed up and dry, and i know of others that have retrieved broken leads from the motor, you may try that, someone here will know more. Last edited on Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 08:55 pm by Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 10:10 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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the blade turns freely by hand and how would i get the stator out to replace the headwire (it goes in in the back) is it possiple that the motor is just very very weak and cannot turn the blade???? because the blade does turn freely by hand when i had oiled it before i replaced the grease in the gear box and filled the oil cup 1/3 full of 20 weight nondetergent oil i use zoomspout...
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 11:43 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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since these stators can't be removed, i don't know, but there's probably a way, i finally managed to rewire mine, (took a lot of creativity)
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23rd, 2011 11:59 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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if you know where i could get a new motor with houseing it would be greatly appreciated. EDIT: would really like to use this bugger in my living room also if anyone has one has one of these for sale it would be nice if it had even a very shord headwire just something to tie into also would sevral coats of paint fillin some pitting in the base Last edited on Thu Feb 24th, 2011 12:03 am by Joseph Daniel |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24th, 2011 12:04 am |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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that's something i don't know. they are fairly common fans though so you could probably find one easily, but, judging the condition of your fan, it may be better just as a parts fan and find another one, i'd say if the motor was good it would be worth repairing, but since it does seem your motor's gone you should probably just find a fan in better condition.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24th, 2011 12:30 am |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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i would really like to just get a motor for this fan i know that its not worth it but i would really like to see this one running if anyone has a complete one of these for cheap i may just buy that or i could just get the cheapest brassed bladeed fan i could find!!!!! Last edited on Thu Feb 24th, 2011 12:32 am by Joseph Daniel |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24th, 2011 11:48 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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the exact same fan i have is in this post -->http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=14183&forum_id=1&highlight=loose+cage+wire also what was the orgional color of this fan because i im stuck on saveing this fan
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 12:24 am |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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i know what you mean, my cake right now is kinda like your vortalex, needs many parts, and probably isn't economically sensible, and other members have tried talking me out of fixing it and using it for parts instead, but foolishly i'm sticking with my plan considering that is what you're doing with your Vortalex, the original paint color would have been "frost grey" as GE called it, someone probably knows of a source for this or a similar color, good luck, Lewis
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 12:46 am |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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Thank you Lewis for telling me what the paint color is..  i was really wandering what the orgional clolr was!!!!!!!
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 01:37 am |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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LOOK WHAT I FOUND ON CRAIGS LIST A COMPLETE VORTY ITS 25.00 AND IF THE MOTOR RUNS AND THE SELLER TELS ME WHATS WRONG WITH IT IL JUST FIX THIS ONE UP..... hope the seller replys soon. i hope it works because it has all of the parts i need!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! happy day im happy in the most way......  it better work
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 05:03 am |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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good luck to ya, did you get it Joseph?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 04:35 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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dont know yet the seller hasent replyed to my email. EDIT: seller replyed to email and said that the blades are getting cought on something but its not the cage now im wondering if mabey something got stuck inside the motor any ideas????? should i get it??? Last edited on Fri Feb 25th, 2011 09:59 pm by Joseph Daniel |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 25th, 2011 10:21 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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it may just desperately need oil, or it may indeed be getting caught on the cage and the seller doesn't know what thir talking about, go out and take a look at it, that's the best way
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26th, 2011 12:07 am |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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i will see if i can go see it on mondey i just got this one out of storage and i tstarted growing mold on the choke coil its now offically a parts stump and it grew a lot more rustMAD ABAOUT IT.................................................
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26th, 2011 12:12 am |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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Joseph Daniel wrote:i will see if i can go see it on mondey i just got this one out of storage and i tstarted growing mold hopefully you can get this other one
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26th, 2011 01:42 am |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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i now want it now even more if it is broken i now have a parts fan. i guess this one will be a parts stump mabey someday someone will fixit up and get aal of the parts
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26th, 2011 01:45 am |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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i shure hope that the blade is in balince and true if i get it there is probably a bent cage wire that is ceacthing the blade i say this because these cages bend really easy
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| Posted: Tue Mar 1st, 2011 04:14 pm |
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Shaun Thurman Guest
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Hi Joseph, I just found a 16 inch GE Vortalex, in the original beige color with the carrying handle and other parts intact. Like yours, the power cord is shot and I'm replacing it, along with cleaning and oiling it. If it works fine, I'd be happy to sell it to you cheaply. (if not, I'll have a parts fan like you!) If you're interested, I'll keep you up to date on when/if it works with the new cord. Shaun Thurman
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| Posted: Tue Mar 1st, 2011 08:54 pm |
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Joseph Daniel Guest
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thanks i havent decided if il buy the other one yet and i may be interested..
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| Posted: Tue Mar 1st, 2011 09:02 pm |
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Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland Guest
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those tan one's are really nice, plus capacitor start motors, run cooler, they have lots of brass accents, and they look nicer (this is a 12 inch, but you get the idea Attached Image (viewed 460 times): Last edited on Tue Mar 1st, 2011 09:06 pm by Lewis Fitzgerald-Holland |
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