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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 01:23 am
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Hello, I am looking to purchase a set of three studs for an Emerson 79648-AP-G, as the ones I am using are just a 10-32 rod with a nut(you may remember I posted about this a while ago) will not hold, I have been trying for the past hour with no avail. So I am looking for an original set with the little welded flare they had on the end to keep the stator in place. Thanks! :D

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 01:47 am
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How long is the rod?
Geo...

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 01:55 am
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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About 3 5/8" :D

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 01:59 am
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When I get home I will check... I am sure I have some round head slotted screws in 10-32 you can cut down if necessary. ..
Let me know...

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 02:02 am
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Oh, I don't think a screw would work, I need a rod with the little metal circle that was about 3/4 of the way on the rod, and threaded at both ends. Thanks though! :D

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George Durbin wrote: When I get home I will check... I am sure I have some round head slotted screws in 10-32 you can cut down if necessary. ..
Let me know...


CRAP!!!  I WILL HAVE SOME 10-32 in a few days... 
Geo...

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 02:15 am
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Martin Carena-Santiago wrote: Oh, I don't think a screw would work, I need a rod with the little metal circle that was about 3/4 of the way on the rod, and threaded at both ends. Thanks though! :D
Ok... if you change your mind let me know... I cut off the round head and make my own... I solder on the nut with silver solder... works well...
Geo...

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 02:25 am
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Ok, thank you, I will let you know if I can't come across any! :D

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 03:32 pm
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Bump, still looking. :D

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 04:20 pm
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What kind of problems are you having with the ones I sent you? They were 10-32 exactly 3-5/8" long and I sent regular nuts and undersized nuts to fit. I beveled the edges so the nuts spin on and off with no problems. Have you checked them against one of your originals to make sure they are the same sizes? 

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Martin Carena-Santiago
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They fit fine, I just can't keep them in place, as when I go to tighten the nuts the hold the front motor cover on, they let loose. I can't tighten the nut very tight as it is borderline to the stator windings, and if I pressure too much the pliers could slip and strike the stator windings.:D

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 06:05 pm
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locktite is your friend, if you have the correct length now -- go purchase loctite thread locker, it will hold the nut in place until you remove it. Lawrence

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 10:56 pm
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Would Jb weld work to hold the studs in place? I would just rather find original studs for the fan. I am sure they are common. :D

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 Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2015 11:11 pm
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Lawrence Smith
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No use loctite or any thread locker, j b weld is not used for that.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2015 01:08 am
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Ok, I am going to wait and see if I can find some originals first, if not I will try one on these methods. :D

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 Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2015 07:05 pm
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I'll send you some originals.  I never reuse those anyway as they are too much trouble.  Loctite thread locker "red" has worked well for me.  Make sure the recess and the male threads are clean.  Give it a little while to cure. 

BTW:  I saw in one of your many lengthy threads where you were showing a pic of the front of an Emerson rotor.  Where did you get that leather washer?  It looks like a McMaster washer, which I have found to be too thick and caused oscillator noises.  Others have used them with no problems, but I went back to the Darryl Hudson washers, which are the same thickness as the originals.  Just something you might consider if you have some strange oscillator noises. 

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The leather washer is a Darryl Hudson washer. The originals you have, do they have the little flare at the end to keep the stator in place? :D

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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Here is what I need. :D

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Martin Carena-Santiago wrote:  The originals you have, do they have the little flare at the end to keep the stator in place? :D


Yes.

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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Awesome! I will pm you, thanks again! :D

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 Posted: Sun May 3rd, 2015 06:27 am
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Martin Carena-Santiago
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Bump, still looking, the ones I got from Tom were too short, but many thanks anyway Tom!! :D

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Martin, why don't you at least try the loctite method that many members have recommended? All you have to do is run to the store to get some. Worst case if it doesn't work you'll still be looking. No one is going to know its not the original way but you.

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Yeah, I am going to go with the Loctite method as a tried and true fix. I have used the red Loctite and it is tough stuff. I am using it on my wheel spacers on my FJ Cruiser if that tells you the strength of the stuff. It comes with the wheel spacer kit so the manufacturer is confident enough in red Loctite to put my life in its hands. :)


You could even get the nut where you want it and dab some epoxy on it. It's just to hold it there till pressure is on it I believe and JB Weld would work for that I believe at least, it's not a stress heavy part. Would definitely be a worthwhile fix, the Loctite or the epoxy. Making your own parts is part of the fun on these fans; ex. I'm currently making some brass feet for a fan out of some brass plated furniture studs.

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2015 04:24 am
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Bump, still looking. :D

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Why haven't you at least tried loctite?

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I did attempt some, but it did not hold for me when I tightened down with my socket wrench. The nuts were also extremely hard to tighten without hitting the stator windings, it took me about an hour to get it perfectly aligned, and then when I tightened the cover the stud broke loose. Guess I should keep looking! :D

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 Posted: Thu May 14th, 2015 06:04 am
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Martin
 Take the studs Chad sent you and figure out where you want the flair and take those studs and cut a snap ring grove in them and use a snap ring or E keeper.
 Also if thee is room you could double nut the ones that hold the stator in. you tighten them together one against the other.
 You arent over tightening are you they are 10/323's?

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