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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2019 08:17 pm
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Don Tener
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That is just SAD! If that other person never got involved this would have never happened. Now the seller is completely delusional!

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 Posted: Tue Jan 15th, 2019 08:57 pm
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Don Tener wrote: ...the seller is completely delusional!


And the jerk seller used


a picture I posted on the


forum in another thread.


:pissed   The audacity!...   :pissed


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 Posted: Wed Jan 16th, 2019 10:18 pm
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Ouch, poor fan is going to rot away at that price.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 12:59 am
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The board has nothing to do with this, it's an e bay auction. The seller has nothing to do with the AFCA, the member who made the offer did not do it within the AFCA. I do feel the AFCA should not be involved in anything outside of the AFCA. They can ban the the person who made the offer, but that will not stop this person from doing the same ting in the future. This kind of thing happens all the time on e bay. I guess if you play the e bay game, this is going to happen sometimes. E bay does not care, they only want the fees from the seller.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 01:01 am
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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 01:29 am
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Steve Sherwood wrote: The board has nothing to do with this, it's an e bay auction. The seller has nothing to do with the AFCA, the member who made the offer did not do it within the AFCA. I do feel the AFCA should not be involved in anything outside of the AFCA. They can ban the the person who made the offer, but that will not stop this person from doing the same ting in the future. This kind of thing happens all the time on e bay. I guess if you play the e bay game, this is going to happen sometimes. E bay does not care, they only want the fees from the seller.
Hi Steve!

Ditto's on your post... The AFCA only handles things regarding the AFCA... We do not have a means to handle conflicts like this... The only thing we can do for members with conflicts within the club is to mediate the issue... If that fails it is all we can do and hope cooler heads prevail...

Geo...

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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 09:15 pm
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If the seller borrowed Jim K.’s photo from this discussion I am sure they now realize it will now be hard to sell even at original price.

Original post was in regards to the seller and continuing to blame the other buyer after David clarified the issue is just illogical as well as the comments pertaining to arbitrating private transactions as a burectratic body through 3rd party platforms such as Ebay.

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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 10:34 pm
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Chris A. Campbell wrote: If the seller borrowed Jim K.’s photo...   ...it [the fan] will now be hard to sell...

Thanks,...  I think?
   :wondering:

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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 11:34 pm
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Jim Kovar wrote: Chris A. Campbell wrote: If the seller borrowed Jim K.’s photo...   ...it [the fan] will now be hard to sell...

Thanks,...  I think?
   :wondering:

Seller would be reading the discussion. 

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 Posted: Thu Jan 17th, 2019 11:45 pm
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Chris A. Campbell wrote: Jim Kovar wrote: Chris A. Campbell wrote: If the seller borrowed Jim K.’s photo...   ...it [the fan] will now be hard to sell...

Thanks,...  I think?
   :wondering:

Seller would be reading the discussion. 
Maybe the Idiot will get a clue and bring the price back to a reasonable level but I doubt it lol.

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 Posted: Fri Jan 18th, 2019 04:51 am
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Wow, sorry this happened David. Unfair and unethical behavior on both of their accounts.
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David Allen wrote: So, the seller now thinks he's going to get $1200 for this fan, without putting any effort or money into it.  People never cease to amaze me with their small mindedness.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/352568732880



Ps - notice the red text "A seller you've bought from" on the screenshot? That's from the sale I won that he reneged on.




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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 06:03 am
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Once bids have been made, on eBay, there are very few allowable ways to end an auction early. The item was broken. The item can not be found. The item is no longer available. The latter is to provide for items listed on multiple sites and sold on the other site. Side deals off ebay between a seller and a buyer are expressly forbidden. Based on the discussion so far I could not have concluded which of these options were used to cancel the auction. According to Ebay rules this type of behavior, if proven, will cast the seller his account for life. File a grievance and open a case on this. Ebay will get to the bottom of this...

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 07:23 am
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Larry White wrote: Once bids have been made, on eBay, there are very few allowable ways to end an auction early. The item was broken. The item can not be found. The item is no longer available. The latter is to provide for items listed on multiple sites and sold on the other site. Side deals off ebay between a seller and a buyer are expressly forbidden. Based on the discussion so far I could not have concluded which of these options were used to cancel the auction. According to Ebay rules this type of behavior, if proven, will cast the seller his account for life. File a grievance and open a case on this. Ebay will get to the bottom of this...The auction was never canceled. After the auction ended another person contacted the seller before he shipped it and offered him more money. He then refunded David's money so he could sell it to the member that made him the offer "After" he already sold it to David.

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 07:59 am
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Westinghouse-Fan-Western-Electric/183641174286?hash=item2ac1ddf10e:g:fSEAAOSwKXhcQQHz&redirect=mobile
Now there's this.  :hammer:

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 08:28 am
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Royal Norman wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Westinghouse-Fan-Western-Electric/183641174286?hash=item2ac1ddf10e:g:fSEAAOSwKXhcQQHz&redirect=mobile
Now there's this.  :hammer:


:pissed  Dang it, Royal!  :pissed


I was gunna snipe that.




Now everyone will


know about it.   :X



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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 08:40 am
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Sorry

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 09:44 am
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If I saw that Westinghouse at a flea market I’d consider buying it if I could walk away with it for $30. There are quite a few good parts if you need them and what appears to be a decent ilg blade..maybe a little higher but certainly not $175 plus shipping. I always wonder if they have a clue it’s a frankenfan. 

Also the phrase “ it powers on but the blade doesn’t turn” hmmm... I guess it doesn’t actually power on then, does it?


Anyhow, I’m always entertained by sellers like this that stretch the truth just to the brink of misrepresentation. 

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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 12:12 pm
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Lane Shirey wrote: If I saw that Westinghouse at a flea market I’d consider buying it if I could walk away with it for $30. There are quite a few good parts if you need them and what appears to be a decent ilg blade..maybe a little higher but certainly not $175 plus shipping. I always wonder if they have a clue it’s a frankenfan. 



Also the phrase “ it powers on but the blade doesn’t turn” hmmm... I guess it doesn’t actually power on then, does it?





Anyhow, I’m always entertained by sellers like this that stretch the truth just to the brink of misrepresentation. 


A WestingIlgErnHouse.. Now I've seen it all.

They must have raided the scrap iron bin behind a fan repair shop....


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 Posted: Sun Jan 20th, 2019 04:04 pm
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David Allen wrote: Lane Shirey wrote: If I saw that Westinghouse at a flea market I’d consider buying it if I could walk away with it for $30. There are quite a few good parts if you need them and what appears to be a decent ilg blade..maybe a little higher but certainly not $175 plus shipping. I always wonder if they have a clue it’s a frankenfan. 



Also the phrase “ it powers on but the blade doesn’t turn” hmmm... I guess it doesn’t actually power on then, does it?





Anyhow, I’m always entertained by sellers like this that stretch the truth just to the brink of misrepresentation. 


A WestingIlgErnHouse.. Now I've seen it all.

They must have raided the scrap iron bin behind a fan repair shop....


:imao:imao:imao:imao:imao

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 Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 12:27 am
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Tom, how do you know it was a AFCA member?

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 Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 12:40 am
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Boy, I really feel your pain David...that was not a good way for the seller to do business. This is exactly why I rarely buy antique fans on ebay, although it may be worth the risk sometimes. I usually just drive to meets, or visit collectors/estates who are selling a few things. I would probably do ebay more if I didn't find enough just from going on roadtrips. Just picked up a couple brass fans yesterday from a seller about 2 hours from my house.

Last edited on Mon Jan 21st, 2019 12:43 am by Louis Weedman

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 Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 12:46 am
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Hi Louis!

Well? Wut did ya get?


Geo...

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 Posted: Mon Jan 21st, 2019 01:02 am
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Larry White wrote: Once bids have been made, on eBay, there are very few allowable ways to end an auction early. The item was broken. The item can not be found. The item is no longer available. The latter is to provide for items listed on multiple sites and sold on the other site. Side deals off ebay between a seller and a buyer are expressly forbidden. Based on the discussion so far I could not have concluded which of these options were used to cancel the auction. According to Ebay rules this type of behavior, if proven, will cast the seller his account for life. File a grievance and open a case on this. Ebay will get to the bottom of this...E bay may have rules but they are hard to enforce, The origianl buyer got his money back... E bay does not care anymore. E bay is about making commissions on sales, nothing else.

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