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| Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2020 03:44 pm |
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Steve Bornstein Guest
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Hello All, A new member here, looking to buy an antique fan that has brass blades and a brass grill and is restored. I will be attending the fan fare, but dont wish to wait till then to get one for my living room. Money is not important, just the style that is right for my particular room.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2020 04:17 pm |
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Mark Behrend AFCA Member 
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Welcome to the forum. There are so many different fans out there you should try to narrow your search at least by brand. What is your location, many guys aren't big into shipping either. Good luck!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2020 07:01 pm |
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Steve Bornstein Guest
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Thanks Mark, I am in 37745, TN. Not so much brand, GE ,R+M, Westinghouse, I would like it to have brass blade/grill and nice paint/ fully functional. Thanks again!!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2020 10:35 pm |
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David A Cherry AFCA Member 
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go to this fan site https://pin.it/2ksrBng pick out something that will excite you when it arrives in the mail... this would be my suggestion. 8 inch all brass candlestick Diehl. this one is not for sale, I guess I shouldn't of said that. everything is for sale.. with the exception of my children, I guess I better include my wife as well, she may be reading this. anyway good luck!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2020 10:52 pm |
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Richard Daugird AFCA Member 
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Check out Chad Baker's site, Antiquefanparts.com, he has pages of fans for sale, most in really good to excellent original condition, some restored: https://antiquefanparts.com/fans-motors-misc-for-sale/ If you have a big bankroll, check out the "Highly Collectable" section: https://antiquefanparts.com/desk-fans/highly-collectible/
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 12:23 am |
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Steve Sherwood AFCA Member 
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Which one you want? Attached Image (viewed 605 times):
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 04:49 am |
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Mark Behrend AFCA Member
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Steve Sherwood wrote: Which one you want?Is that a 5210 on the bottom shelf? If so, I will take that😀
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 03:43 pm |
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David Kilnapp AFCA Member
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Interesting request, Steve. So you want something restored with brass blade and brass cage. Let me help you narrow that down with a few of my favorites: Five speed 1903 fully ribbed GE Pancake:  1900 GE stick pancake  Westinghouse built tank (with Western Electric Victor badge)  Westy tank built Hawthorn Victor Vane fan  Menominee Stag horn (smaller fan)  Robbins & Myer lollipop fan  GE Collar Oscillator  Pair of GE BMY's (Sidewinder on the left and smaller BMY on the right)  Pair of Robbins & Myer fans (16 inch gear back on the right)  All brass GE (small fan)  All Brass Westinghouse fan (smaller fan)  Century Skeletal fan  Emerson early oscillator with ball detent   Jandus C-frame   GE Kidney bowl fan (BMY big motor yoke)   Somewhat newer Westinghouse  Colman Deflector mounted on a Fidelity fan  These are but a few of the fans from the 1900 to 1920 time frame (most are between 1900 and 1914) with the brass blades and brass cages. There are many more but these are my favorites. Perhaps they will help you narrow your search. I would start by deciding if you want a smaller fan (6 to 8 inch), a medium sized fan (12 inch) or a larger fan (16 inch) and then go from there. What do you think?
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 03:48 pm |
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David Kilnapp AFCA Member
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I second the suggestion of going to Chad Baker's site: http://www.antiquefanparts.com and click on desk fans. He's got a great collection there and most if not all are for sale. And Chad does a great job of packing them so that they arrive safely without damage. Welcome to the club. Great group of people here!! Steve: I'll pay you $5 more for that Emerson 5210 than Mark! Last edited on Sat Apr 18th, 2020 03:49 pm by David Kilnapp |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 04:26 pm |
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Steve Bornstein Guest
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Wow, everyone here is so much more kind than those on the antique radio forums. There really are some amazing fans out there. Wish I had gotten into restoration 20 years ago!!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 04:42 pm |
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David Kilnapp AFCA Member
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Well, I don't know how old you are Steve, but you are not too old to get the restoration bug. I'm 66 but there are tons of folks younger and some older but all terrific people all over the country and some out of the country bound together by our love for these grand machines. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say, welcome and glad you're here! Last edited on Sat Apr 18th, 2020 04:43 pm by David Kilnapp |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 05:22 pm |
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Steve Sherwood AFCA Member
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Mark Behrend wrote: Steve Sherwood wrote:It a Mesco 5410.It has all ready been sold.Which one you want?Is that a 5210 on the bottom shelf? If so, I will take that😀
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 06:21 pm |
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David Kilnapp AFCA Member
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Forgot to include this guy which is a six wing GE BMY.   Of all the fans I have worked on, the best value for the money, in my opinion, are the GE fans particularly the big motor yokes. These can be had for under $1,000 and sometimes at or under $500. Then there are the Westinghouse Tank fans. Those are terrifically made fans and also very affordable. The more stylish fans start to run into more money. I'm referring the GE Pancake fans with the ribbed bases. Those will get up over $1,000 but less than $1500, usually if fully restored. The five speeds on some of the GE Pancakes makes them very utilitarian particularly at the lowest speed. The Emersons are very pretty too particularly the ones with the trojan bases and they can be had for under $1,000. Specialty fans like the lollipop, the vane fan, the C-frame and the staghorn get pricey since they are rarer. They are lots of fun to watch as they run but not good daily runners in my opinion and they can be expensive getting close to $2,000 or more for a fully restored lollipop for instance. Finally, as a member, you have access to the AFCA gallery which is part of this forum. The password to open the pictures individually is found in the quarterly magazine which you will get with your membership. Many more pictures may be found there of all makes and types of fans. Last edited on Sat Apr 18th, 2020 06:24 pm by David Kilnapp |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 10:08 pm |
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Richard Daugird AFCA Member
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I agree with everything David said, but you can get really nice mid-late 20s Emersons for less than $500, and they are great for running non-stop. You can just turn them off every once in a while to re-polish the brass.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18th, 2020 10:41 pm |
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David Kilnapp AFCA Member
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Richard is correct. Lots to look at and lots to decide!
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 01:07 am |
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Steve Stephens Guest 
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Steve, I have a blog with lots of good information and good photos of the fans I have for sale (none currently) and have sold already: http://www.earlyfans.com Be sure to see the BLOG ARCHIVE on the right sidebar near the top of each page for many blog articles back to 2011. Last edited on Sun Apr 19th, 2020 01:09 am by Steve Stephens |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 03:59 pm |
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Steven P Dempsey Guest 
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I still think the early R&M "Gear Back" Oscillators & 1404 Stationary are undervalued & UnderappreciatedWhich is great for me! I have several i bought for less than $300 as below Better looking & running than a GE BMY, and I have both. Attached Image (viewed 393 times):
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 03:59 pm |
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Steven P Dempsey Guest
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I have an original flag badge for the last fan (1404) now.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 04:00 pm |
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Steven P Dempsey Guest
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Hand Polished Brass, no Lacquer.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 05:33 pm |
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David Kilnapp AFCA Member
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Both of those are great fans and I agree wholeheartedly with Steve that they are underappreciated. Last edited on Sun Apr 19th, 2020 05:33 pm by David Kilnapp |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19th, 2020 11:02 pm |
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Sean Campbell AFCA Member 
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My recommendation would be Peerless/ Colonial. Nice running fans and built like a brick! They also have a very unique look to them that sets them apart. Some models are surprisingly affordable and the DC models are nearly silent. 
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2020 01:31 am |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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For the record, this is the correct factory mounting of the PEERLESS cage badge.    Colonial also mounted the cage badge at a slight angle. Attached Image (viewed 349 times):
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2020 04:49 am |
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Steve Bornstein Guest
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I am overwhelmed. I know one thing for sure. I am going to get into restoration. I will be attending the fan fair, I hope to meet the members here. If you could point a newbie in the direction of a starting point in this hobbie where would you start?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2020 04:54 am |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Steve Bornstein wrote: I am overwhelmed. I know one thing for sure. I am going to get into restoration.I'm not into restoration so wanted to make you aware of "conservation" where the best parts of antiques are conserved to show them at their best but without removing all of the old finish. Each of us has their own loves and have to pick what works best for them. I love my old fans and other antiques to keep their old finishes (I do choose good examples to begin with though). Of my 180 fans or so in my collection I have none restored, none repainted, only 3 or so with polished brass. I do see many fans bought by collectors which I feel, also, do NEED to be restored. I just don't by fans with those needs. I know a number of advanced collectors who have gone from paint and polish and shine to keeping the fans original or close to that as they matured in their collecting interests. Last edited on Mon Apr 20th, 2020 04:55 am by Steve Stephens |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2020 05:06 am |
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Sean Campbell AFCA Member
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If you want something with an easy entry level, I would suggest a nice Emerson or GE. Both brands are very beginner friendly. If you decide you want an Emerson, PM me. I’ve got a few I’d part with. Steve Bornstein wrote: I am overwhelmed. I know one thing for sure. I am going to get into restoration. I will be attending the fan fair, I hope to meet the members here. If you could point a newbie in the direction of a starting point in this hobbie where would you start?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20th, 2020 09:50 am |
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Jeff Whitfield AFCA Member 
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Hey Steve Don't forget to check out Marelli, manufactured by Ercole Marelli in Milan, Italy. Popular across the world. Typically the models cast iron until after World War II. Brass blade, cage and usually cast struts. Look at models made after World War 1 for sturdiest oscillating models. The best is the Marelli Delio. Easy to work on. More compact vertically than heavier American counterparts, but sturdy. Last edited on Mon Apr 20th, 2020 09:52 am by Jeff Whitfield |
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