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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 06:02 pm
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Steven P Dempsey
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Got a crack at this original running 1310 - - Value? No doubt worth a few Pancakes.



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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 06:02 pm
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100% original finish

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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 07:32 pm
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Rarer that 1900-1908 Pancakes and more pricey. Approximately only 1750 made.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 10:40 pm
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If it runs it should be worth at least $1500, probably more. They are the earliest and most desirable in my view.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 11:08 pm
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Is there a pool on what all will get destroyed in shipping?  

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 Posted: Mon Mar 22nd, 2021 11:56 pm
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Man I hope not! Stephen has the worst luck shipping I have ever seen! Seems like the shippers are TRYING to break stuff. I had an original Lolipop damaged last year, and it was packed very well. I have a Tesla coming from the same seller any day now, I have my fingers crossed!

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 02:04 am
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Even "You Guys" have sent me damaged goods - - I have a PI-241 that is coming to Hickory Via Atlanta, and several more I am picking up in KY & West VA this April. A 1901 Pancake I sent arrived with a busted switch (see WANTED BST) & that with $1000 in Insurance!!

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Maybe there are some extremely careless workers at your particular post office.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 02:12 am
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I switched to UPS to send, $100 starting Insurance - - - USPS was the worst, but I receive from them, being the cheapest!!

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Over $2000.00 better dig deep

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yes seems that way

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 06:08 am
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$950.00 in 2010. 




For Sale: 1310 Emerson Ribbed Base Residential Fan - Buy-Sell-Trade - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums

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1320. Good luck!  :D

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 06:18 am
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Man, I wish my old Corvette wasn't bleeding me dry at the moment...

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I sold my vette

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Whose 1320 is that Russ ?? How many of those survived that we know about ??

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Hi Geoff, That used to belong to Stefan Osdene. The picture was taken in the basement of their defunct appliance museum here in Virginia. RIP
I've held and seen in person two 1320's

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 03:52 pm
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Do we keep any records of (known) surviving Emerson fans from that early (Pre-1910) period? Pancake serial numbers have been collected for years. The PI 241 will be my earliest Emerson (1900-1901?)

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 05:05 pm
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Steven P Dempsey wrote: Do we keep any records of (known) surviving Emerson fans from that early (Pre-1910) period? Pancake serial numbers have been collected for years. The PI 241 will be my earliest Emerson (1900-1901?)Ron Jeter's survey includes early Emersons and is available for all members to view.

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 Posted: Tue Mar 23rd, 2021 05:16 pm
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Geoff Dunaway wrote: Whose 1320 is that Russ ?? 
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 Posted: Wed Mar 24th, 2021 05:03 am
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The 1320 may be a 4 pole motor despite the 6 wing blade. Electrical trade rates the motor at 90 watts on high speed. The 1310 is clearly described as a 6 pole motor.  Both 12" and 16" 6 wing fan motors were introduced in 03.







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12" top end speed lists 57 watts.





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1903 American Electrician. Notice mention of the wattage use of the 12" and 16" 6 wing 1310 & 1320 fan motors. 80 to 90 watts on the 16" fan motor.









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Notice the wattage on Rich Becher's 16" 1320 in the gallery. It is far less than the 03 electrical trade mentions, and less than the 12" 1310 on this post. ???......Rich's 1320 must be a 6 pole motor at that wattage. 







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June 03.





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Hi Russ,
Of my early ornate 16" Emmy's they are stamped;
PI-242, of 1901 & 1902,104 V & 99 W 
2nd PI-242, 104 V & 92 W
1020, of 1902, 104 V & 85 W
These are small motored 4 wingers.
 
Next are the large motor models;
1120 of 1903-04, 4 wing, 104 V & 110 W
1220 of 1903, 4 wing, 110v & 90 W
1320 of 1903, 6 wing, 115 V & 58 W
1321 of 1903, 6 wing, 104 V & 66 W
1520 of 1906, 4 wing, 104 V & 100 W
1620 of 1906, 6 wing, 115 V & 50 W
1820 of 1908, 4 wing, 115 & 95 W
2220 of 1909, 4 wing, 104 & 97 W
11648 of 1910, 4 wing, 115 V & 84 W
12648 of 1910, 4 wing,  115 V (stamped 15) & 104 W

Have fun!
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Hi Russ,
Of my early ornate 16" Emmy's they are stamped;
PI-242, of 1901 & 1902,104 V & 99 W 
2nd PI-242, 104 V & 92 W
1020, of 1902, 104 V & 85 W
These are small motored 4 wingers.
 
Next are the large motor models;
1120 of 1903-04, 4 wing, 104 V & 110 W
1220 of 1903, 4 wing, 110v & 90 W
1320 of 1903, 6 wing, 115 V & 58 W
1321 of 1903, 6 wing, 104 V & 66 W
1520 of 1906, 4 wing, 104 V & 100 W
1620 of 1906, 6 wing, 115 V & 50 W
1820 of 1908, 4 wing, 115 & 95 W
2220 of 1909, 4 wing, 104 & 97 W
11648 of 1910, 4 wing, 115 V & 84 W
12648 of 1910, 4 wing,  115 V (stamped 15) & 104 W

Have fun!
Bill


It appears so far all known 16" 1320 models have 6 pole motors based on the motor wattage listed on the tags. Emerson 03 electrical trade description for the 1320 in this case appears to be misleading.


GE marketed a 6 pole residence desk fan motor in 99. Anyone aware of another 6 pole AC desk fan prior to 99?

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How many poles on a early 6 wing Meston?

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James,
It appears from several past posts that Russ has made over the years, of the Meston patent drawings, that they are 6 pole.

Russ will probably clarify it for us. 

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Ron Jeter's 6 pole meston.
http://www.afcaforum.com/view_post.php?post_id=392562


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I’m guessing +/-  $2000.. The blades look like they have a some wrinkles.. restored to perfection $3000..But at $3000+ you’re starting to get into victor lollipop land..  I guess I wouldn’t hesitate at paying $1500 ..it is a real beauty..

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 Posted: Fri Mar 26th, 2021 02:49 pm
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Thanks for the input, I shall proceed.

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