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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 12:56 am |
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J. White Guest
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Hi guys new member here, i may be a minority here but i am a lampworker who has used my vintage window fan for exhaust of toxic fumes out of my shop for the previous 2 years. Recently my 1940s window fan bit the dust so im looking to replace it. ive been looking on ebay and have come across a few that look up to the task. just curious on how much air these might move and your opinions. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Working-General-Reversible-Windolator-Window-Fan-Model-74-Lasko-Metal-/151822390410?hash=item235951d48a http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lasko-General-1200-Reversible-Window-Fan-All-Metal-Turquoise-Mcm-Works-/252115242176?hash=item3ab33d4cc0 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Vornado-Reversible-Turnabout-Metal-Window-Fan-Mid-Century-Modern-Works-/251788113486?hash=item3a9fbdb64e Last edited on Tue Oct 13th, 2015 01:14 am by J. White |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 02:55 am |
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Andrew Block Guest
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Unless it's a size matter, this is what you need: http://m.ebay.com/itm/VTG-HOUSE-WINDOW-FAN-HOMART-COOLER-P-U-30189-/161835323963?nav=SEARCH The ones you picked out were low end then and are low end now. They have poor Cfm and (IMO) very poor quality.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 02:59 am |
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J. White Guest
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ive looked at those they are about the same size as my last fan i believe, do these smaller ones just not pull enough air?
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 03:03 am |
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J. White Guest
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my shop is fairly small so i dont need too much pulling out. this is the size of my shop. http://www.lowes.com/pd_274588-25-LW108FB_0__?productId=3125499
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 03:17 am |
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Andrew Block Guest
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560 cubic feet. A homart would change the air 4x a minute in low so it might be a bit of overkill but to me more is better than less and you'd have almost like air condition with that breeze! I have a restored baby ILG for sale on ebay, which is a sealed motor so there is that. it moves about 1100 Cfm. Here is a cheaper lasko: http://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lasko-50Th-Anniversary-Window-Fan-/252121329331?nav=SEARCH
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 03:56 am |
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J. White Guest
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I was concerned those laskos might be low end fans. I'm looking for something that wouldn't break the bank to ship.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 04:28 am |
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Greg Mahley Guest 
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Hello, welcome to the forum. In my opinion a Hunter Zephair would be a good fan because they have totally enclosed motors. I would not recommend a fan with a open motor that would allow the toxic fumes to come in contact the motor windings, as the chemicals would likely attack the windings. You may even be best with a belt-driven fan. Good luck in your search.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 05:16 am |
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J. White Guest
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hunter-Zephair-Window-Fan-Industrial-Steampunk-/171318422051?hash=item27e35faa23 one of the few zephairs ive found i think an enclosed motor might be best too due to the ambient heat that comes off of my torch
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 05:19 am |
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J. White Guest
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it looks like these homarts might be belt driven
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 09:18 am |
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J. White Guest
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after further research it seems as if i only need about 550 cfm from my fan.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 05:58 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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The first fan you show is an 8" lasko and they make lots of noise and not a whole lot of breeze. The next one is a 2 speed 12" lasko and will do a decent job. the Vornado is single speed and a good fan, all will have an open motor. The belt drive homarts are great fans but might be too much for your shop. The zephair in aqua that is shown isn't the one Greg is talking about, he is referring to one with 4 blades, either ivory or gray and with the ribbonaire rear grille, the aqua model has an open vented motor too (still a good fan, probably too much for your shop) . try looking on EBAY at "vintage kitchen fans or nutone fans and see if a built in one will do? You havnt said what kind of 40s window fan you had, and what "bit the dust" either
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 06:46 pm |
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J. White Guest
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thanks for your response tom. I had an Atlas Aire 16 inch fan but i have no clue on the specs because theres absolutely no label on the motor. i would like to replace that motor but havent had any luck in identifying it. ill check out those kitchen fans. My motor caught fire during use one night but i think it was my fault the wires might have been ignited by the flame from my torch. Ive only got about 3 ft from my torch to my exit window that i cut for my previous fan. im trying to find something that can handle the heat.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 13th, 2015 07:26 pm |
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J. White Guest
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I think i can get the 2 speed 12 inch lasko for around 50 shipped. it looks like it would hold up to the heat the question is would it move enough air. technically what i do isnt measured by the whole room like most instances its only measured by the opening of my hood which is 2x2 so i only need about 500 cfm out of this fan. Last edited on Tue Oct 13th, 2015 07:26 pm by J. White |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2015 03:14 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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I am not so sure it would handle the heat, you would be better to go to grainger.com and see what they have for a sealed motor exhaust fan, 10" should do....
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2015 08:06 pm |
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J. White Guest
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Thanks alot tom.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 14th, 2015 11:42 pm |
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Andrew Block Guest
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Or an Ilg, those are sealed.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2015 03:02 am |
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Christopher Harding AFCA Member 
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Yeah, I would go for a small Ilgette fan. (ILG) they were meant for such applications and had a sealed motor too...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2015 03:58 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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I would agree. an open motor wont do it... did you save the one that quit?
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15th, 2015 06:41 pm |
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J. White Guest
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Yes sir I've still got it.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16th, 2015 07:12 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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why don't you post a picture of it (Whole) and of the motor too and see if someone has one for you to repair that one as well
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| Posted: Mon Oct 19th, 2015 08:05 pm |
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J. White Guest
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I did Tom. It's listed under pre 1950.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2015 10:39 am |
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J. White Guest
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Rangemaster-Window-Exhaust-Type-Fan-/161865967171?hash=item25aff6a643:g:UQAAAOSwEetWAs5e#shpCntId anyone got any info on this one? the seller doesnt know anything about it.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 2nd, 2015 07:24 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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this one is really rare with an original window mount. The fan SHOULD have a sealed motor so as not to be filled with grease and gunk. These were made for people who did not have the ability to put one through the wall, and in many cases people would buy a GE , ILG, Diehl , Westinghouse etc which was a small window fan. This one uses a real through the wall exhaust fan, but would be for apartment houses and high buildings and such. I see it sold. if you bought it, take good care. the window housing is worth more than the fan!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2015 02:02 am |
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J. White Guest
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Thanks tom i wish i would have grabbed it, went for a pretty good price. i was just unaware of how much air this would move and the seller didnt have any info.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 3rd, 2015 03:46 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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they don't move a huge amount of air like a larger fan would, they are meant to quietly but effectively change the air in a single room once or so every 2-3 minutes, and keep just enough pressure in the doorways to keep kitchen smells from wafting in to the other room, not to make a breeze.
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