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Kim Frank AFCA Member 
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I have a one speed coin op, unrestored, from my collection for trade. It is fully operational, is totally complete with repop locking bank door and has been completely gone through. The numbers all match on the handle, instruction plate, and switch plate. It has a brass blade and a steel cage, correct for this model. It runs for about 65 minutes on a nickel, as I remember. I will trade even up for a 1904 stickmount GE pancake in decent unrestored condition. It would need to be correct and complete, and in operational condition with all five speeds working. The wrap around brass info band is preferred, but will consider the steel band with riveted tag. It would be a type AB form D. The base will be half ribbed and would have the single set screw holding the motor to the base. Cage would be 8 wire drop ring, wrapped or pierced, and the blade would be brass with stamped brass hub. If you have this fan and are interested in a straight up trade, call, email or PM me. I can provide pictures of the coin op.....The 1904 stick mount cake is the only thing I will consider for trade. The coin op fan is not for sale otherwise....... Last edited on Wed Dec 5th, 2012 12:28 am by Kim Frank |
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Tim Marks Guest
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I'll give you a high five and a case of beer at fanfair. puleeeeease.... t |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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why sure...........if that five has three zeros behind it.... Still looking for that '04............anyone??? |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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I've had a few offers to buy but I really would like to trade for a cake.......The cake would look like this.....but in unrestored condition preferably..... Attached Image (viewed 1667 times): |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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A brass band info plate but I would consider a steel band with small tag riveted to it....... Attached Image (viewed 1676 times): |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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This is what I'm offering..........owning one of these GE coin ops is known to boost your libido, up your appreciation of the UFC, and make you point and laugh at sissy non GE fan collectors. Now is you chance to be manly......or BA womanly..... Attached Image (viewed 1670 times): Last edited on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 01:23 am by Kim Frank |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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These are a whole lot more interesting than a cheesy 'ol pancake fan, especially that piece of crap 1904 stickmount....... Attached Image (viewed 1584 times): |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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I've been hearing that people that have these GE 1904 stickmount pancakes have been coming down with excema, shingles, ED, and adult onset acne. How horrible it would be for you to be confused with an Emerson collector. Just because I'm a nice guy, let me take one of these fans off of your hands before you fall victim to one or more of these maladies..... Attached Image (viewed 1630 times): Last edited on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 01:24 am by Kim Frank |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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A complete working coin op for a 1904 GE stickmount cake...........I'll sweeten the deal......I've got some pics of Jeter in a compromising situation with the bearded lady from a carnival....I'll throw in a couple.... Attached Image (viewed 1587 times): |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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And as added incentive to make a trade, I'll also throw in one full year of security for your fan collection by Poncho Ron's . All you'll have to do is feed him.......Let's make a deal! This bad boy fan is complete, functional, and a must for any serious fan collector. So is the coin op............Truthfully,, '04 stickmount pancakes are soooooo passe'. Coin ops are the big thing in collecting... Attached Image (viewed 1634 times): Last edited on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 08:11 pm by Kim Frank |
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Mike Lackey Guest
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If I had one I would have concented !!! Too funny ! |
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Steve Sherwood AFCA Member 
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OK, I want this coin OP fan. I hate to get rid of this jewel, but I will offer it up, but I will need some cash from from you Kim, plus the fan. Attached Image (viewed 1542 times): |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member 
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Kim, and what year is this one, no Form and no Type on the name plate. Attached Image (viewed 1538 times): |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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That is a 1905 Ted. Lay off the Scotch for a bit and go out there in your shop and dig out that '04 stickmount I know you have buried in there. I'll throw in a fifth of Glenfiddich....... Steve, that's a tempting offer, but I just traded off my 8 inch Berstead collection for a nine pack of Miller Lite pints and a bag of Redman..... |
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Steve Stephens Guest 
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Ted, 1904 was the last GE with a Form letter (D) until Form letters reappeared c.1914 and, then, continued to 1939. 1905 is the last pancake with any ribs on the base. You won't be tested on this by the way. |
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Ron Gibson Guest
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Man Kim, wish I had the pancake you are looking for..that is a very nice coin op. |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Man Ron, I wish you had the cake I'm looking for. I'd love to make the deal................ |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member 
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"You won't be tested on this" I'm waiting on the movie. Or at least the History Channel special. Such a riveting plot line. Seems like it is set in cast iron. Electrifying cast. |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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I'd be happy if someone posted a picture of their 1904 stickmount with a brass band info tag and told me "I have one but it's not for sale or trade". Just knowing that it exists would be nice...it can't be that rare.... I really got my hopes up when I got an email from Santa Claus saying that if I could be a good boy until Dec 24th, there might be that fan I'm looking for under the tree. Then my hopes skyrocketed when I got an email from the Easter Bunny saying that there might be the fan I was looking for hidden in a colorful egg. Finally hope turned to despair when I got an email from an intelligent Emerson collector saying they knew where the fan I was looking for was located............I knew I was being punked because while there might be a Santa Claus and an Easter Bunny, everybody knows that there ain't no such thing as an intelligent Emerson collector. Last edited on Sat Dec 8th, 2012 04:21 pm by Kim Frank |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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Kim, This is a sough after beauty, breath taking, heart attack causing and who knows what else! All original, the stick also original-transitional, outside the partially ribbed base are polished 5 speed choke windings ....Patina is dripping of the stick! It's got to be the scotch effect.... Attached Image (viewed 1556 times): |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Nice fan Ted but the one Kim is looking for uses three struts, not four as on your stick. |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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Kim you're in good hands, Steve saved you...again! I'm sure you didn't see that detail. No one can't get away with "franken-nism" here...big b. is watching. |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Ted, that is a beauty for sure, but Steve is right, It's got to be a three strut......After seeing what that coin op on Ebay just went for, and the seller wasn't sure if everything was there, I may have to reconsider this offer..... |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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Keep it!!! You'll get your stick mount soon or a later. |
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Ron Powell Guest 
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Ted Kaczor wrote: Kim, Stick it to'em Ted!  |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Ted Kaczor wrote: Keep it!!! Perhaps you're right Ted. Maybe someone doesn't want to trade a coin op, and wants to sell their cake outright. If that is the case, shoot me an asking price. or maybe someone has both the cake and coin op already. I'll trade you your cake for a full blown resto on your coin op...Or perhaps you want an already restored coin op? I have this one but it will take a stick mount plus $$ to get it........... Attached Image (viewed 1489 times): Last edited on Sun Dec 9th, 2012 03:28 pm by Kim Frank |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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This one is complete and operational.......with lots of little custom touches....like no holes in the base. Attached Image (viewed 1508 times): |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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All brass hardware is spun to a satin finish and cleared. Even the bank door key is color matched...... Attached Image (viewed 1500 times): |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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Kim, I'm surprise with your light hand decision of doing such frivolous trading... Com on now KIM!!! I understand collectors urges to have it NOW!!! but this is NO MATCH here!. Coin Ups. are far rarer (complete operational) than Sticks. If I only new the exact details of this 1904 Stick Mount I would go out there in the world and find you one + I would give you gratis rare EMERSOON. DON'T DO IT!!! |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member
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Ted Kaczor wrote: Kim,Payback is such a wait. A nickle an hour, 24/7/365, and it it will be $438 a year. Convert them to silver dollars, mount over a one-armed bandit and turn the AC off, then maybe you can turn a buck. |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Ted Kaczor wrote: If I only new the exact details of this 1904 Stick Mount I would go out there in the world and find you one + I would give you gratis rare EMERSOON.Half ribbed base with one set screw. Round porcelain switch with metal adapter plate. Eight wire cage and stamped brass hub on the blade. 3 struts. Stickmount with a brass wrap around motor tag, although I would settle for a steel band with small tag riveted to it. Other than that, it is the same as the late '03. I've got that fifth of Glenfidditch waiting on you and you can keep the Emerson......they give me skin rashes.... |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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So the one on the picture above with brass bend I posted has the extra thumb bolt...and that makes the difference between 1904 that you want and and 1905 I have? And the one with original bend namplate I send you pictures (what happend to them) is with one set screw but the Form is not "D" and that makes it 1903? This is crazzzzzzzzzzzzzy... I'm going to bed. |
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Louis Luu AFCA Member
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Haven't a clue...don't know year or form, other than it is a cake. Has not been messed with yet. Here is the two pics. Attached Image (viewed 1453 times): Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 04:19 am by Louis Luu |
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Louis Luu AFCA Member
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Louis, what is the form letter? C or D.....?? or if you can't tell, is the switch round and mounted to the base or is it round and mounted on an adapter plate and then mounted to the base?? |
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Louis Luu AFCA Member
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All I remember is I got this from Charlie a while back: http://www.afcaforum.com/forum2/18179.html Todd Mann is currently babysitting the fan for me. |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Louis, that's a nice looking original pancake. What FORM letter is on the motor tag? |
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Louis Luu AFCA Member
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Fan is currently not with me. Todd Mann is babysitting the fan. Maybe Charlie remembers? Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 05:05 am by Louis Luu |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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I've never seen a GE that needed babysitting......If your fan is factory original, then it's probably a late 1903. A ten wire cage would be correct to the fan, as would an eight wire cage. 1903 was a year of transition, as seen with the stamped brass hub. All sorts of combinations of 8 and 10 wire cages and cast and stamped brass hubs on the blades are seen, especially later into the year's production. A ten wire might be seen on an '04, but not as a rule. Same with a cast brass blade hub. Louis, let us know what the form number is when you get a chance. I'm guessing C ....... I traded for a 1904 stick with a brass band a couple of years ago. It was a fantasticrestorations debacle. Anyhow, the brass band on it came from a form B. Knowing 'ol fantastic's reputation for mixing up parts, the fan also came with a Jandus blade, I have always wondered if the fan had a form D brass wrap around tag originally.... Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 01:48 pm by Kim Frank |
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Louis Luu AFCA Member
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"Babysitting." I wanted Todd to look over the fan and redo the wiring and check out the bearings. Also wanted him to make one of them fancy deflector for it. You could call him up or shoot him an email and ask for the model number. Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 02:35 pm by Louis Luu |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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I'll pass......but I'd say yours is like the fan on the right. Mine came with a cast brass blade hub and a wrapped eight wire cage...All three fans are 1903 form C Attached Image (viewed 1078 times): Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 03:00 pm by Kim Frank |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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The deflector cage looks great on the fan. When I got mine, I made a pulley to look like the oil return. I secured it to the hub and it worked fine. The pancakes look naked without the oil return, when using just the oil slinger grooves cut into the blade hub....... Attached Image (viewed 1029 times): Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 03:20 pm by Kim Frank |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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another view of the pulley.......btw, I'm still interested in doing a trade or outright purchase of a 1904 stickmount cake if anyone has one they want to get rid out. Attached Image (viewed 1064 times): Last edited on Mon Dec 10th, 2012 04:01 pm by Kim Frank |
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Ron Jeter Guest 
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Hey Kim: Look what this GE coin-op went for - might want to do some re-thinking before someone comes up with the 04 Stickmount! Kim: Check out the price on this coin-op!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/271114419113?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&autorefresh=true |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Wow! Over $1100 for a coin op that's missing the bank door and has a bypassed switch. That's a couple of hundred more on top of the selling and shipping costs....As soon as I can find this one pancake, my collection is complete and I can start collecting Emersons............ |
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Louis Luu AFCA Member
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Type ab form c |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Thanks Louis. That's what I thought it was. Very nice fan btw...... |
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Jeff Whitfield AFCA Member 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-ANTIQUE-G-E-COIN-OP-ELECTRIC-FAN-WORKING-EXCELLENT-NICKEL-PREPAYMENT-1905-/271118957230?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1ff2faa ... Maybe two pancakes for one coin op? |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Jeff Whitfield wrote: ... Maybe two pancakes for one coin op? Ain't that just crazy. A coin op that is missing it's counter and it still sells for $1725. Jeez, I've been selling restored complete coin ops for $1650 and less. Guess that's gonna stop. I'm guessing that a complete and fully working coin op in unrestored condition is worth at least $1725, so I'd say that now it will take two unrestored 1904 stickmounts and a case of Smirnoff's for the coin op......I'll still throw in the photos of Jeter with the bearded lady... |
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John Rothrock Guest 
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Yeah, I was watching both those coin ops, was amazed what they finally went for--not willing to go there though--will keep scanning the craigslist |
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Randy Rohr Guest 
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Kim, $1725 for an AC one-speed, what's that make a DC one-speed worth, and an AC 3-speed? 60% of my collection is DC! RR |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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If you cost average the two that were on Ebay, they are worth $1418 each. Somebody paid way too much for the last one in my opinion, and the first one was a bit high for an unconfirmed working coin op.......as far as a DC and a three speed, who knows. I'll be hanging on to the ones I own for a while..... |
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Ted Kaczor AFCA Member
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The Coin Op. for Pancake deal is off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! as Coin Op is no longer available! you lose! ! ! the 1904 Form D Pancake holder... I decided for Kim... someone has to do it, stop Kim from irresponsible decision making, that is. |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Ted Kaczor wrote: I decided for Kim... someone has to do it, stop Kim from irresponsible decision making, that is. Thank you Ted. Wish you were around for some of my other irresponsible decisions..........like wife no.1...... Attached Image (viewed 754 times): |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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or this mistake......took months for the rash to clear up... Attached Image (viewed 676 times): |
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