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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 08:44 pm
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Charlie Wicks
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Nice little Westinghouse 8" all brass fan. Needs a little tlc but it's all there and has NO cracks in any of the housing like so many do. Wants to run, blades turn slow. I'm sure it needs some cleaning and lubing as It was found in an estate and been sitting for a long time I'm sure. Cage needs a little repare/straightening and S wires re attatched but like I said it's complete and estate fresh.$200.00

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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 08:45 pm
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 Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 09:28 pm
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Victor Gurganus
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Hi Charlie,

I'll gladly take it off your hands!

Sent you a PM, too.

Thanks,

Victor Gurganus


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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 05:19 am
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Hello - I know this has come up before... If we do not catch the asking price - and it sells - and the seller removes the price at "sold" then we never know what these sell for. It seems as though we MUST become ebayers to track pricing - I for one do not wish to have to do this on Ebay - I am not an ebayer, and do not wish to become one. Is it a bad thing to leave the sell price alone as many have already seen it ? ( before it sold ) and are we afraid to let others know what we sell at, even though ebay is out there ? I, possibly like others ( i'm sure ) have fans I would be willing to sell to other members but are unsure of what to ask for them ( without been able to go to a member event ). I do not want to develope an EBAY seller rating for only a few fans I would like to sell and it might bse beneficial to offer fans within the club as some member might want the fans we are willing to part with ??? Just a thought !

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 05:26 am
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Nicholas Denney
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I complained about that before and it fell on deaf ears....

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 05:34 am
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Robert Schoonmaker
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I know you did as many have - it's a shame we can't have a members "Only" BUY / SELL / TRADE section that we could list what as MEMBERS ONLY what we want to deal. With prices or not ???

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 06:35 am
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I too have wondered why this is common practice here. I’m a member to many forums and this is the first time I’ve seen this. What’s the reasoning behind it?

For me, a new fan collector, I’m still trying to learn what fans are worth, so I don’t get burned when shopping in the wild or on ebay.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:20 am
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I second what has been stated above. It's weird that guests are allowed to post new threads but not post replies to existing threads. But weirdest is that they are allowed to post for-sale threads in the classifieds. That's backwards based on any other forum or club that I'm a part of. Typically a for-sale post is a right reserved for members only. All the current practice does is attract fan sale trolls to the forum to sell that nice fan they just out-bid you on at the estate sale in the next town over.

But more to the point of the sentiment posted here, deleting what a fan sold for is just weird. I'm not going to make any friends by doing this, but if you want to know what this all brass sold for just send me a PM and I'll tell you. The price may be deleted but my memory still exists.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:29 am
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I can see why sellers do delete their asking or sold prices but I with they would leave them up.

I have always left my prices on BST posts as well as my Photobucket. Now that I just switched over to the "new" Photobucket it looks like all my descriptions and prices have disappeared. I hate the new Photobucket. Anyone know a better site for hosting photos that is easy to use? Photobucket took away most of what was good about the site and we were going to be forced to switch to the new version next month anyway. No way now to go back to the old PB which I used extensively for hosting photos of my fans for sale. Once a fan sold I would delete all photos but the first one that had a complete description and price for anyone to see.

I would vote for guests to be able to post on anyone's thread but nobody is passing the voting sheet around on that topic.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:47 am
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Steve Stephens wrote: I can see why sellers do delete their asking or sold prices but I with they would leave them up.



I would vote for guests to be able to post on anyone's thread but nobody is passing the voting sheet around on that topic.


I also see no purpose in deleting prices when an item is sold.  This is information useful as a general guideline to all of us desiring to sell or purchase.

I would also add that I have yet to see anyone passing a voting sheet around on any topic in this organization.  That is one of my gripes!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 08:15 am
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Steve Stephens
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BST users, are you willing to tell us why you who delete the asking price of sold fans do so? Just curious here and I know it's the seller's prerogative to do so. I would not try to change your mind although I think it would be useful to club members (and guests) to have the price remain.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 08:42 am
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I also think that the BST forum should be private and restricted to AFCA members only. I don’t why see the general public should have access to this part of the site.

I’d trust buying a fan from an AFCA member any day of the week, but to buy from a “guest”….not so much.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:46 am
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I used to think the BST forum should be only for club members, too, but I changed my mind.

You cut off your nose despite your face by restricting the BST forum to members and rebuffing guests who might be future members.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 02:22 pm
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Steve Stephens wrote:

Now that I just switched over to the "new" Photobucket it looks like all my descriptions and prices have disappeared. I hate the new Photobucket. Photobucket took away most of what was good about the site and we were going to be forced to switch to the new version next month anyway.


Well said, Steve. I too wish we could go back to the OLD PB. It's like everything else in life, people always have to "mess" with a good thing that works well. These tech people sit around all day trying to always come up with something new and it's usually never for the better.

I too would vote for B/S/T to be for members only. And the SALE price should be left up as a reference. ETSY is notorious for posting SOLD and taking down the price.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 02:27 pm
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Jeff Whitfield wrote:
I used to think the BST forum should be only for club members, too, but I changed my mind.

You cut off your nose despite your face by restricting the BST forum to members and rebuffing guests who might be future members.


Just recently I have talked to a couple of people that were selling on Craigslist and they wanted to sell on AFCA but were under the impression that you had to join, which they had no intention on doing.

My opinion, is that if we let anybody post "For Sale", we will get potential scammers.
That's what Ebay is for...the anybody's.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 02:35 pm
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I agree due to most purchases on afca are going to be sending money thru the mail with really no recourse if the item you are buying doesn't show up at your doorstep.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 03:12 pm
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I have a definite lack of trust when seeing a listing from a "guest". Even though I haven't met very many members, I still know who I'm dealing with. Leave those selling prices up. There are some fans on my got to have list, but they all are going to require me to save up my money to buy them. Some reference sale prices would be nice

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 06:16 pm
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I like to see the price's too, and since the grumble light is lit. Listing a price doesn't mean that's what it sold for. Guests should be able to respond to their own "fix my fan" topic's only. BST should remain open, more fans the merrier.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 06:48 pm
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Didn't mean to offened anyone and certainly don't want to burn any bridges with the fellow members that I have delt with and sold to in the past as well as future members. I have a stellar rating with all members I have sold to in my time here as a member. But I will add my 2 cents while I'm commenting myself here. I have had fans for sale on the BST before for lengthtly periods of time with no sale and only to see for a fact MEMBERS go on EBAY and buy the same exact fan as I had here , same condition, for sale and pay more than I was asking for mine just because they went to the competition (ebay) and got in a bidding war. I don't think that's right either. And a comment from a member to me on my add for a R/M 8" AC/DC fan I had for sale on 3/1/2012 Charlie,thought you would drop your price by now. I don't know exactly how to take that comment .Was sincere comment or a sniede remark. I think the later my opinion only.Anyway, I reposted the price for all to judge . Peace!!

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:01 pm
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I don't care one way or another, I sell here occasionally and leave the price, but if someone deletes theirs it doesn't bother me at all. I think another member said it correctly "It's my business and no one elses." There's more eyes out there than just members or even other sellers...

To Charlies point about the "snide" comment, that get's a little old and sure makes you think about selling elsewhere, I know it does me...

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:48 pm
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I'm on the fence about guests posting in BST. I recently bought a fan from a guest and I got a great fan, good price, and the guy was wonderful to deal with. The fear is..eventually we may start seeing scammers looking for a quick buck and we don't have any way of getting our $ back.

As far as pricing goes, it's a great tool for members to use when we see a fan in the wild and need to know it's value (as AFCA members see it).  We don't need to know the details of the transaction, if the buyer made an offer and so on. But a good starting price that we can use for future refference is sure handy.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 08:44 pm
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I was fortunate enough to be in the right place at the right time to reply to Charlie's listing and I gladly paid his asking price of $200 plus shipping.

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FWIW...

These BST transactions are between the seller and the buyer. This includes the buyer's name and the final price. If both parties agree to disclose this information, so be it. Otherwise, it's a private transaction. This forum is not eBay. I'm just as curious as the next guy regarding 'current values' but I think it's important to respect the privacy of others.

My 2 Cents

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:34 pm
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I agree the transaction is and should remain private. The original listings of For Sale items is, however, public at the time of posting. Whether the seller wants to keep or delete the price is his choice but I like to see the price remain and do so with my sale items.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 11:07 pm
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Just recently I have talked to a couple of people that were selling on Craigslist and they wanted to sell on AFCA but were under the impression that you had to join, which they had no intention on doing.

My opinion, is that if we let anybody post "For Sale", we will get potential scammers.
That's what Ebay is for...the anybody's.

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It's an individual's choice where they want to sell an item and an individual's choice where they want to buy it. Kind of like ... do you want to want to play college football at the University of Alabama or the University of Florida?

Not good enough for Alabama? No sweat ... They'll find more and better players to play for the Crimson Tide.

It's no different with fans.

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 Posted: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 11:15 pm
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If you're worried about a buyer/seller, Paypal is an option -- backed up with a credit card. Of course, nothing's flawless.

An option I once pondered was to ask that guests, depending on the cost of the object (less than $100 would be exempt), pay a percentage to AFCA for selling on the BST. It's just an idea.

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I can see both sides of this issue, but I don't really care what you sell your fan for; I care about what you were asking for it. I've never bought a fan off E-Bay and may never buy one on this forum, although I would be much more likely to. I do, however rely on this forum and the BST to learn the value of the fans I've acquired, or those which I might be interested in acquiring if I thought I could afford them. As far as the quest thing, I kind of like the idea of the BST being for members, or something along the lines of Jeff's idea

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 Posted: Sun Feb 10th, 2013 03:58 am
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I say leave the price up after the item sells. It is a good resource to have in order to gauge value in the future.

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