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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member 
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How many do I need to place an order for to get you to make SOME?? Dean Steinhaus Last edited on Thu Feb 27th, 2014 08:07 am by Dean Steinhaus |
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Jim Humphrey AFCA Member 
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I could use one or two also. |
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Steve Sherwood AFCA Member 
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The only person I ever knew that made them was Dave Dalsin but he does not make them anymore. |
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Steve Stephens Guest 
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There was someone else casting kidney gearbox housings out of aluminum at one time. I have one which I bought from Geoff. No idea of the person who made the castings. |
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Jim Humphrey AFCA Member
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I really think the problem lies in the complexity of the casting and machining (and associated costs) and the willingness and ability of people to afford to pay what it costs. I've got three complete and running kidney fans, but two of the gearboxes needed work because they were damaged one way or the other. I've also got another three kidney fans with no gearboxes. So I don't really have a crying need for more kidney gearboxes, but it'd be nice if they were available simply because the GE kidney fan is an impressive piece of brass and iron and more people would have them except for the gearbox being broken or missing at least 50 percent of the time. Just my addled thoughts on the situation. |
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Chris Benbow Guest 
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Seems to me that the housing is only part of the problem. Most of the incomplete kidneys I've seen don't have the contents of the gear box either... |
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Jay Fontanella Guest 
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I spoke to Dave Dalsin at length several months ago when I was on my kidney kick and was shocked to hear that people actually complained at the price he was selling them for(which I believe was under 250.00 for the 3 pieces) Being a fabricator and restorer of old cars, I can honestly say that at less than 250.00 Dave was giving them away and providing a serious favor to the fan community. The fact that anyone complained about price, I dont blame him for why he stopped making them. While I would really like for someone to reproduce them again, I completely understand why no one will. Dave did it as a hobbiest, Darryl is a professional machinist and earns a living doing fabrication. I am sure Darryl can speak for himself but I have to think that if he were to even consider doing a repro of those pieces, I am guessing they would be 2x-3x what Dave was selling them for. BTW, I believe Darryl addressed never wanting to make them in a thread awhile back. Last edited on Fri Feb 28th, 2014 04:30 am by Jay Fontanella |
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Josh Backens Guest 
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Well said Jay and I can completely understand why anyone would quit. A lot of this stuff takes valuable time and costs $$ in materials. There's a lot of us out there who just simply don't know how long certain jobs take, what skills are involved, or how much money in materials are spent alone on any one certain job. When a price comes up, many think "well the fan itself is only worth blah...." Ok, well then it's probably not worth having someone fabricate, restore, or whatever for blah amount of $$. But if it's worth it to you, don't complain about the price it'll take to get fixed. It is what it is. |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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I have no doubt that the kidney gear box and cover are very time consuming to make. My hat is off to anyone out there that has the knowledge and equipment to make them! Personally, I would be willing to give 500.00 for one of Dave Dalsin's Kidney gear boxes. If anyone has the knowledge, equipment, time and is willing to make about 30 of them, I believe you could make a profit. |
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TJ Downey Guest 
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Jay Fontanella wrote: I spoke to Dave Dalsin at length several months ago when I was on my kidney kick and was shocked to hear that people actually complained at the price he was selling them for(which I believe was under 250.00 for the 3 pieces) Being a fabricator and restorer of old cars, I can honestly say that at less than 250.00 Dave was giving them away and providing a serious favor to the fan community. The fact that anyone complained about price, I dont blame him for why he stopped making them. While I would really like for someone to reproduce them again, I completely understand why no one will. Dave did it as a hobbiest, Darryl is a professional machinist and earns a living doing fabrication. I am sure Darryl can speak for himself but I have to think that if he were to even consider doing a repro of those pieces, I am guessing they would be 2x-3x what Dave was selling them for. BTW, I believe Darryl addressed never wanting to make them in a thread awhile back. Which is why I quit mass producing parts. Westinghouse acorn nuts, Emerson collars, Dayton pivot knuckle, R&M oscillator wheel. When I worked it out I found that I was working for $.13/hr. And this didn't include the cost of electricity or wear and tear on the machinery. So when I had people tell me my prices were too high, I said, "Enough is enough". I appoligize for this rant. But I had to get the burr out from under the saddle as it were. |
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Tim Marks Guest
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Dean Steinhaus wrote: I have no doubt that the kidney gear box and cover are very time consuming to make. My hat is off to anyone out there that has the knowledge and equipment to make them! Personally, I would be willing to give 500.00 for one of Dave Dalsin's Kidney gear boxes. Are you interested in buying 30? Do you need gears? Do other people need gears? Throw gears into the mix and at $500 there's no way to profit on it. T |
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Michael Rathberger Guest 
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Dean Steinhaus wrote: I have no doubt that the kidney gear box and cover are very time consuming to make. My hat is off to anyone out there that has the knowledge and equipment to make them! Personally, I would be willing to give 500.00 for one of Dave Dalsin's Kidney gear boxes. For $500, you can have my complete 16" running and sound GE Kidney to do what you want with. If however, you want the bronze gear box specifically, then I get it. I'll even deliver it to Darryls. |
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George Durbin AFCA Member 
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Tim Marks wrote: Dean Steinhaus wrote:I have no doubt that the kidney gear box and cover are very time consuming to make. My hat is off to anyone out there that has the knowledge and equipment to make them! Personally, I would be willing to give 500.00 for one of Dave Dalsin's Kidney gear boxes. If the gear box is gone so are the gears! If someone can mass produce the box and gears the cost would still be better spent on a complete kidney? Having said that, I have 3 kidneys no case or gears.... Mass produce? How many would you need to mass produce to get the price down? It would take a CNC machine punching these things out to get the cost down. Then the gear sets will still need to be produced...I am not sure the answer here for kidneys... If you could get $2K for a kidney maybe you could justify it. I think the gent making them before did it for the love of it because even at $2-$300 i dunno how they make up for their time or cost. Did those kidneys include the gear set inside? geo... |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Hi Michael, Yes, I am looking for the bronze gear box and top cover. I have all of the gears. |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Hi Tim, I don't need the gears. 30 was just a number I picked, hoping that would be enough to make it worth someone's time to make a profit. If you are able to make the egear box and cover, let me know what 30 would cost. Dean |
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George Durbin AFCA Member
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Dean Steinhaus wrote: Hi Tim, I sure hope you gitter done! |
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Tim Marks Guest
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I've toyed with the idea a few times. In order for me to even get started I need to model the gearbox and I just haven't had the time to do it. If I did I would have the gearboxes cast in bronze then CNC the remaining geometry using a fixture. I would NOT do the gears though, I've never cut gears before and wouldn't want to go down that road. Steps needed for me to get this done: Model the gearbox Build a milling fixture (not terribly difficult) Create the CAM for the milling operation Develop a relationship with the foundry down the road and see if they have any interest in casting this. 3D print a casting positive (to allow for shrinkage) Then go from there. I'll keep thinking about it. T |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Tim......I'll say a little prayer that you can't get a good nights sleep untill you start making them.....LOL  |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Better Call DAVE DALSIN |
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Tim Marks Guest
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Dean- How important is it to you that the gearbox is bronze? Do you want a bronze gearbox to show off or do you want a working gearbox to paint? The reason why I ask is because I'd be able to rapid prototype you a working gear box (sans gears) out of bronze impregnated stainless steel, but you'd have to sand it, fill it, and paint it. it likely wouldn't look great on its own. T |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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If your giving me a choice it would be the (BBB) Bling, Bling, Bronze! |
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Josh Backens Guest
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BLING FOR SURE!!!!!! |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Great minds think alike Josh! |
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Darryl Hudson AFCA Member 
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Well I guess since Dean addressed this question directly to me, I'll go ahead and give an explanation to my position. Many of you who have posted above get it (why I don't care to make them). The kidney fans only bring so much money. The cost to make the gearbox and all of the components far exceeds the worth of the fan. I made several of these some 15 or so years ago. I think Carlton got one or maybe two, and David Senn got one. I don't remember who got the others. The gearbox case itself I had cast in brass from an original as well as the top and pointer. The gears I cut from round bar, and all of the other components including the little spring and ball detent mechanism was custom made. As many of you know, when you have something cast there is shrinkage involved. (Kinda like George in the pool on that episode of Sinefeld). There's just so many factors to consider when you make these things. First of all, the gearbox is such an odd shape that even the simplest task of holding/fixturing to do the machining is something to deal with. There are two standoffs inside the bottom of the gearbox where two holes are to be bored/reamed to accept the two vertical shafts that hold the two large gears. The distance between these two holes is very critical as this is what determines the tooth engagement of the gears. With the shrinkage of the gearbox housing, you can't just bore the holes in the center of the standoffs (these bored/reamed holes also have to be parallel to each other, perpendicular to the rotor shaft, and parallel to the machined face of the flange that mounts to the back of the motor) since with the shrinkage the two reamed holes in the bottom of the gearbox will end up being off center (ex centric) to the standoffs. With any casted part there's a lot of rough excess on the casting. The top has to be "fitted" which is another pain in the butt with warpage that usually exists. I could go on and on, but bottom line is it takes a lot of set up, time, tooling. Those gearboxes I made years ago I sold for $500 each--complete ready to mount, and I swore to myself I'd never make them again. I stuck to my quote of $500 because that's what I quoted before hand and that's what people were expecting to have to pay. Like TJ said, if I figured my per hour dollars on those things I was working for peanuts. If I didn't have any other work, or if I was starving to death, yeah, maybe I'd make them. But right now, and most always I have some backlog in the shop so there's plenty to keep me busy. Sorry Dean. You sound like you genuinely would like to have these reproduced, but I won't do it. Maybe someone who does fans as a hobby will take the project. I've got to stick with projects I can pay the electric bill and buy groceries. Phyllis has gotten used to eating 3 or 4 times a week so this is not something I care to do. I've tried to seriously explain my position while interjecting a little humor to keep the conversation light. Honestly, I'd like to see someone take this project and get it done. The Kidney oscillator is a piece of GEs history in oscillation movement and definitely worthy of being salvaged. If there's one thing I cringe to see is a kidney with no gearbox, and the worm has been hack sawed off so it doesn't stick out the back of the motor and twist the cats tail when he walks by (ain't that right Steve ?) Somebody? Anybody? Last edited on Sat Mar 1st, 2014 04:38 am by Darryl Hudson |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Thanks for responding Darryl, To some of us the Kidney fans are worth more than they would sell for. Would the gear boxes and covers that you made some 15 years ago work with the original internal parts, gears etc. |
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Darryl Hudson AFCA Member
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Yes I think original components would fit the boxes I made as I used the original spacing/dimensions as the original, even though there was shrinkage of the gearbox casting, I compensated by keeping the gears same size and spacing, and grinding away a little more of the internal wall of the gear box so the gears would clear it. I can't speak for those that others have made. Edit: I'm not sure what the shrinkage factor is with brass, but with cast iron you generally lose .015" per inch. In other words if you have a 6" long part and have it cast in cast iron, the product will be .015" X 6 shorter than the original, or .090", which is about 3/32". In a gearbox where you have clearance, alignment, and engagement features, 3/32" is a LOT! 2nd Edit: A good caster can make adjustments for shrinkage if he will take the time to do it. As in the case of something such as an oscillator arm linkage, He first must make a casting of the original, then on that repro he can cut it half into and add whatever the shrinkage factor is and make the repro longer, and then cast it again so that when it shrinks it ends up the same length of the original. For something as complex as the gearbox, I don't know how he would make the correction, but I don't do foundry work. I'm sure those guys have their secrets. A good example is the back castings of the Victor Luminaire fans. Those things must be 14" across. I won't call any names but years ago a member had some of those backs done in cast iron because so many of those Luminaire fans have the backs broken out of them there is a good demand for them, but when the product was done the back was 1/4" too small in diameter and would not line up with any of the holes where it mounted. Last edited on Sat Mar 1st, 2014 05:03 am by Darryl Hudson |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Honestly, what would you need to charge to make one more brass gear box and cover only to make it worth your time? |
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Darryl Hudson AFCA Member
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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LOL!! |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Darryl Hudson wrote: If there's one thing I cringe to see is a kidney with no gearbox, and the worm has been hack sawed off so it doesn't stick out the back of the motor and twist the cats tail when he walks by (ain't that right Steve ?)I've only had one kidney, a 12" Hunter with a repro ALUMINUM gearbox. Have never used it and it's out of the way of the cats. Do you know who made the repro kidneys out of aluminum? |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Tim ! Are you taking notes? |
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Tim Marks Guest
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Dean- how badly damaged is your gearbox? A repair isn't impossible. |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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I have repaired some in the past. This one is shattered beyond repair. |
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Josh Backens Guest
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Pics please :). |
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Jay Fontanella Guest
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Tim Marks wrote: I've toyed with the idea a few times. In order for me to even get started I need to model the gearbox and I just haven't had the time to do it. If I did I would have the gearboxes cast in bronze then CNC the remaining geometry using a fixture. I would NOT do the gears though, I've never cut gears before and wouldn't want to go down that road. Tim Dave Dalsin had a good usable wax mold for the kidney housing and pointer, unfortunately he gave it away to another member who probably has good intentions but has done nothing with it. I cant remember who it was right now, but I did approach the current holder of the mold a few months back and he was trying to get to the project and not willing to pass the torch. Hopefully he is reading this thread and will chime in. It would be nice if someone, who is willing to take the mold to the next step, get the mold that Dave made. I will state for the record that I am in for 2 Kidney housings(top and bottom) and I dont need the gears. I would pay up to 300 for the 2 pieces if anyone decides or is trying to decide whether to do this or not. Last edited on Sat Mar 1st, 2014 07:22 am by Jay Fontanella |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Please chime in Mr. Wax Keeper!! |
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Thomas Peters AFCA Member
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I will start with a heresy among fan people. Make a gear box cover and gear box out of a modern plastic. It could be injection molded, or might even be produced with a 3-D copier. Honestly, as far as strength, it would probably equal or might even exceed an original pot metal job. Being out of plastic, it should also benefit from minimal shrinkage. Once painted, no one should ever know what it was made from, just by casual observation. Allright, here come the slings and arrows. |
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Jay Fontanella Guest
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Thomas Peters wrote: I will start with a heresy among fan people. Tom You deserve no daggers for suggesting a good economical and probably very viable solution to the kidney issue. I even thought of it myself as I have been debating about buying a 3d printer and trying to think of all the projects I wanted to do with it to get my monies worth out of it. However, as much as you are correct that no one would ever know, I personally cant get past the plastic being bolted on to my iron fan. It almost flies in the face of what the old fans represent, to me anyway. I believe they are coming out with a metal casting 3d printer, or they may have already. Its been awhile since I reasearched it. |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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THIS IS A COPY OF THE PM THAT I SENT TO DAVE DALSIN Hi Dave, Jay Fontanella, a member of the AFCA, mentioned that you made some really good wax molds for the kidney housing and pointer when you were producing them. He also said he thought that you gave them to someone that was going to try and make some more. I have been speaking with Tim Marks about the possibility of making them again and was wondering if the person that you gave the wax molds to would be willing to let Tim Marks use them. Any help would be greatly Appreciated by all of us Kidney FANS! Thank You, Dean |
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Jeff Whitfield AFCA Member 
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Steve Stephens wrote: There was someone else casting kidney gearbox housings out of aluminum at one time. I have one which I bought from Geoff. No idea of the person who made the castings.That was Paul Graves and he made over 50 of then over the years, he says. We saw this thread at the fan meet. |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Thanks Jeff, nice to know the maker and it's a nice kidney. |
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Tim Marks Guest
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Dean Steinhaus wrote: THIS IS A COPY OF THE PM THAT I SENT TO DAVE DALSIN Dean- I appreciate your enthusiasm but I can't say that I'm the right person to receive a wax mold for the positive. If I pursued reproducing the kidney I would model the part in CAD, this would allow me to easily scale it up 1.5%. I'd then print the positive and provide that printed part to a foundry. But timing is not great for me. I have a little girl due to arrive literally any day now and lots of more pressing issues going on at work. I do have a complete kidney gear box in my parts collection, I just need to degrease it so that I can start modeling it. Last edited on Sun Mar 2nd, 2014 05:16 pm by Tim Marks |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Tim, Congratulations on the New arrival coming Soon. Family comes First. I do hope that you, or someone with the ability, will take this project and run with it in the near future. |
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Jay Fontanella Guest
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Jeff Whitfield wrote: Steve Stephens wrote:There was someone else casting kidney gearbox housings out of aluminum at one time. I have one which I bought from Geoff. No idea of the person who made the castings.That was Paul Graves and he made over 50 of then over the years, he says. We saw this thread at the fan meet. You mention Paul was making them over the years, I am guessing he stopped making them? |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Calling Paul! Calling Paul! Come in Paul!! |
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Doug Handley AFCA Member 
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Thomas Peters wrote: I will start with a heresy among fan people. I think that this is a dang good idea for at least the gearbox. I feel sure (with my limited knowledge) this could be done. I have read of people printing working firearms with the plastic 3-D printers. I would have no problem with a plastic gearbox if it got my fan to oscillate. |
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Tim Marks Guest
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One can just as easily print in metal these days, as I mentioned in an earlier post. Plastic, metal, cast or printed, all options would have a secondary milling operation, and that's the primary frustration with this project. |
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Jeff Whitfield AFCA Member
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Jay Fontanella wrote: Jeff Whitfield wrote:Steve Stephens wrote:There was someone else casting kidney gearbox housings out of aluminum at one time. I have one which I bought from Geoff. No idea of the person who made the castings.That was Paul Graves and he made over 50 of then over the years, he says. We saw this thread at the fan meet. He said he had blueprints for the boxes and made them in the 1990s. If you're really interested in the gearboxes, you might want to contact him. |
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Paul D Graves Guest
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Dean Steinhaus wrote: Calling Paul! Calling Paul! Come in Paul!!I'm here and would consider doing a run of boxes . BUT first I'm buried in work that needs to be done first and when I'm done then I would consider it . |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Thank you, Thank you,Thank YOU PAUL! Let me know the cost and your address and I will send payment. |
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Paul D Graves Guest
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Dean Steinhaus wrote: Thank you, Thank you,Thank YOU PAUL!Hold your horses Dean . I will make a run of these and need as least 10 orders, a good aluminum caster , A solid case for copying , and most important my serious backlog of work done . I'm so buried I can't give you an est of when we can start . |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Sounds good, I can wait. Thanks Paul |
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Fred Berry Guest 
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It is a shame that Generic Electric cast these gear boxes in pot metal. A well adjusted kidney oscillator is the most user-friendly oscillator out there. I prefer these over the sidewinder and the round back and any other GE oscillator in fan land. The Dalsin repros were great bling for a kidney fan in need, adding beauty to the fan if you decided to polish instead of paint. They especially look good with a bronze lever too. Attached Image (viewed 1124 times): |
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Tim Pettman Guest
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Sorry guys. I have been very busy lately with a lot going on. I have the molds that Dave had. He is no longer reproducing them as has been stated. I am intending to get to it later this spring. I am still looking for a casting facility that will do bronze in the area, as well as some other details to make this work. As has been stated by Darryl and others, it is a tremendous amount of work. The castings right out of the mold need several hours of work. They need internal machining/cleanup, holes drilled, etc. I do not have any gears or shafts as such, so you would be on your own for that part of it. I have no idea yet as to the cost of the "box and lid" only, but will post as soon as i do. T |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Thanks tim. |
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Tony Clayton Guest 
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I checked into having a local artist that casts in bronze about possibly reproducing some Victor cage badges in brass. Upon my visit he offered to do it for me but said he only uses bronze. Well that was not what I wanted so I passed on the project. I'd gladly pass the information on to Tim if this might be of any interest since you have a mold and only need to have them cast. Feel free to PM or email me if interested. |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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I have a question about Bronze or Brass. Is one a little easier, to make the Gear Box and Cover out of than the other? Both Look Great to me. Forgive my ignorance! |
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Tony Clayton Guest
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My only knowledge is bronze is stronger than brass and the color is more red.Dr Turner said his foundry was not set up to do pure brass casting. Here is a Link to his site to see some of his work. |
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Paul D Graves Guest
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I have made boxes out of brass and aluminum . Brass adds bling but its adds more effort to the machining process . According to the foundries I dealt with brass has less shrinkage than aluminum , but when cast in this shape the opposite was true . The aluminum case shrunk much less and required no internal removal of material to get all the parts in .Big time saver ,also it was much easier to located all the holes . I never had clearance problems using aluminum . Not as pretty but easier to machine and that's my 2 cent's worth |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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The gearboxes will all be painted black as original anyway so why sweat the material. Oh, YOU won't paint it black? I do like the aluminum gearbox that Paul make on my kidney as being a silvery metal per the original pot metal. |
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Jay Fontanella Guest
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Steve Stephens wrote: The gearboxes will all be painted black as original anyway so why sweat the material. Oh, YOU won't paint it black? I do like the aluminum gearbox that Paul make on my kidney as being a silvery metal per the original pot metal. I agree. I think the aluminum is closest looking to the pot metal and will be painted anyway. I think its the way to go, especially if it is easier to work with than other metals (maybe that helps keep the cost down as well) |
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Jay Fontanella Guest
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Paul D Graves wrote: Dean Steinhaus wrote:Thank you, Thank you,Thank YOU PAUL!Hold your horses Dean . I will make a run of these and need as least 10 orders, a good aluminum caster , A solid case for copying , and most important my serious backlog of work done . I'm so buried I can't give you an est of when we can start . Thanks Paul. I dont think you will have a problem getting 10 takers, I want 2 myself and there seems to be a bit of interest here in having them made. I am guessing more than 10 people are interested. |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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I was kidding about the gearboxes all being painted black knowing that many love the bling factor of a bronze gearbox and it is pretty but it's not authentic if that matters to anyone. |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member 
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I bought a gearbox from Paul several years ago. It was a drop in replacement and didn't require any additional machining to make it work.... Attached Image (viewed 804 times): |
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George Durbin AFCA Member
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Kim Frank wrote: I bought a gearbox from Paul several years ago. It was a drop in replacement and didn't require any additional machining to make it work.... Hi Kim! I might have missed his post... Didnt Paul say he would have 30 or 40 housings ready to go in a couple of weeks?...just asking...  geo... ps... gear sets too?? |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Actually George, I heard that you were going to step up and take care of the gear sets..........Are you still planning on doing the Glamour Shots booth at FF? I have you down for it, so bring your camera. |
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Paul D Graves Guest
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George Durbin wrote: Kim Frank wrote:What have you been smokin GeorgeI bought a gearbox from Paul several years ago. It was a drop in replacement and didn't require any additional machining to make it work.... |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Send me some of what ever your taking George! |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Kim, If I gather up all of my wife's jewelry, can you melt it down and make me a Kidney out of GOLD??  |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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I'm just getting a chuckle out of anyone wanting to put $500 or more into a $250 fan.....I've owned half a dozen complete Kidneys, along with some sans the gearbox. Those I chopped off the excess shaft tail, put on a BMY end bell and made pretty little stationaries out of them....Spend your wife's jewelry to buy a GE sidewinder...... |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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OK KIm, Sidewinder.........You got one for sale?? |
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Jay Fontanella Guest
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Kim Frank wrote: I'm just getting a chuckle out of anyone wanting to put $500 or more into a $250 fan.....I've owned half a dozen complete Kidneys, along with some sans the gearbox. Those I chopped off the excess shaft tail, put on a BMY end bell and made pretty little stationaries out of them....Spend your wife's jewelry to buy a GE sidewinder...... I will gladly take that nice kidney fan with Pauls aluminum housing off your hands for 250.00 Kim, where do I send the check . Last edited on Thu Mar 6th, 2014 07:29 am by Jay Fontanella |
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Dean Steinhaus AFCA Member
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Forget Jay's offer! I'll go 255.00!!........... |
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George Durbin AFCA Member
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Kim Frank wrote: Actually George, I heard that you were going to step up and take care of the gear sets..........Are you still planning on doing the Glamour Shots booth at FF? I have you down for it, so bring your camera. Hi Kim! I will be happy to take glamour shots! I have a mini tent and it will be there!! Geo... |
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Kim Frank AFCA Member
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Back in late 2010, I sold off my collection of GE tank motored fans. There were Jandus, FWEW, Diehl, Eck, Hunter, and all the BMY variants. I also sold my Sidewinders and C frame. I sold all four of the Kidneys, 2 Loophandles and 2 ring trunnions, examples in 12 and 16 inch. The Kidneys weren't real money makers, in the $300 -400 range. I could have parted them out and made more money. I would figure a 12 Kidney oscillator missing it's gear box is worth $150 -$200. Now buy a bronze or aluminum gear box ( I paid $250 for the aluminum and the same for the bronze one) so now you're in the $400 - 450 range. Go find the gears needed for your box ( I had an extra set that I sold for $250) and the pointer ($50 if you're lucky) and now you're in the $700 - 750 range. I wouldn't give anything near that for an original condition Kidney oscillator, but with so many new collectors coming on the scene, maybe I'm off the mark.... Attached Image (viewed 924 times): |
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Tim Marks Guest
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I've bought kidneys with gear boxes for $100 on several different occasions. If you keep your eyes open, you'll find them. A kidney repair is much easier than fabricating a new one from scratch. |
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George Durbin AFCA Member
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Tim Marks wrote: I've bought kidneys with gear boxes for $100 on several different occasions. If you keep your eyes open, you'll find them. A kidney repair is much easier than fabricating a new one from scratch. I agree... having said that I do own 3 kidneys sans kidneys and gears... I've not had luck finding complete fans... But still I wait for her!  Geo... |
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Michael Rathberger Guest
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George Durbin wrote: Tim Marks wrote:I've bought kidneys with gear boxes for $100 on several different occasions. If you keep your eyes open, you'll find them. A kidney repair is much easier than fabricating a new one from scratch. I'm with Tim, they pop up now and then. I've been lucky to own 3 different complete fans over the years, all bought local and for less that $150.00. Maybe they made better boxes for the midwest, kind of like every Jandus fan I find has steel plated blades... |
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