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Cory Baughn Guest 
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Well, after finishing my grandmother's fan I am seriously hankering to start on another one that I plan on keeping for myself. I really like GE fans as well as Emerson's and R&M's, but anything including Diehl or Western Electric or whatever would be okay with me as long as it has non-bent brass blades, and even a brass cage too would be great if possible. I think the challenge of polishing a cage would be great! I am a fan of oscillators as well, but that isn't completely necessary. I also much prefer cast fan due to their heft and overall strength. Then again if there is a stamped steel fan out there that is nice I am fine with that too, just prefer one over the other a bit at this point. I am not looking to spend a large sum of money so a little rough is okay. That is the name of the game I'll have to play until I get out of college in a couple years. If you have something and don't mind throw up a picture here and shoot me a price too. I have been on eBay a lot here recently and everything I have found that I like is crazy expensive. I swear when I was looking at them months ago they were half the price they are right now. Thanks fellas, looking forward to getting a fan that I can enjoy everyday too. I am suddenly jealous of my grandmother's! I may move in with her so I can enjoy it too! Ha. Last edited on Sat Dec 27th, 2014 12:27 pm by Cory Baughn |
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William Dunlap AFCA Member 
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Cory, Sometimes it can be tough to get someone to release their grip on their fans. After all, it's the Antique Fan COLLECTORS asc. not SELLERS. So persevere, you'll eventually score something. Around these parts, folks tend to like robust cast iron fans, but don't  be fooled. Some of the best fans are stamped steel. It's just that you need to up your skill sets some to work on them. Cheers, Bill |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Yes, I just know that I have seen some great fans for sale on the forums, was hoping that maybe someone had one that they were going to let go but just hadn't posted it yet. And yes sir, I haven't had the chance to mess with a stamped one yet but hopefully I have the skills to do it. I still have a lot to learn with working on old fans. I may mess a few things up, but I guess that is how we all learn and teach ourselves! Thanks for the help Bill, great forum we have here! |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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This is a kidney fan if I'm not wrong, any help would be appreciated. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Oscillating-GE-General-Electric-Fan-Brass-Blade-Rare-Brass-3-Speed-Works/181619134817?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D52455af8a781439cbdf6680accdf4357%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D20131003132420%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D181623319734&rt=nc It is missing the gearbox, which from what I understand might be hard to find. If anyone has one that they would sell I may buy this thing. I like the kidneys a lot. |
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Tom Morel AFCA Member 
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Don't buy that fan. Kidney-less kidneys are a waste of money unless you have the parts on hand. I always believe in buying the best example that you can afford over the incomplete, cheaper one, especially when you're just starting out. |
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Austin Ko Guest 
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Kidneys are great when they have their gearboxes but once they loose that gearbox, you might as well get a BMY. I think a Tank or a BMY would be a good choice or the AOU loophandle. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I love tank fans of any brand, but I am not too versed on the BMYs and SMY fans. |
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Steve Stephens Guest 
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One of the best of the best is the R&M 1404. I would say it's got everything better then a BM or SMY and a Westy Tank if it isn't as good looking (maybe?) as the tank. Great speed intervals, the best tilt mechanism maybe of ANY fan but they are not all that common. http://earlyfans.blogspot.com/2011/10/robbins-myers-list-1404-desk-fans-1911.html Attached Image (viewed 1568 times): |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I love those fans, and yes they are pretty pricey from the ones I have found. I am a huge admirer of the R&M badge that is stamped and soldered into the cage. I like the one on the right as well, but the two on the left, there is something about them that is beautiful to my eyes. The huge base on them appealing to me as well. Look very chunky. |
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William Dunlap AFCA Member
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William Dunlap AFCA Member
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I am another admirer of the R&M fans. I only have two at present but I loved restoring them. The individual parts are very well made, almost like jewelry. They have powerful motors and a unique sound. I tell folks they sound like lawn mowers...... Also, many of them were pin-striped which I like since I consider myself adept at doing that. (I learned doing vintage motorcycle paint jobs.) Most of them are not priced out of sight like so many early Emersons and GE's, although some of the earliest ones fetch high dollars. I'd like to add a couple of Ge loop handle fans to the hoard, too. A two star would do just fine. They tend to have cheaper paint on them which requires re-painting. No problemo. Absolutely any Emerson could easily find a new home with me. I am particularly fond of the APG government fan even though it falls outside the Emerson norm and has two bearings instead of one. Decisions, decisions. Wonderful quandary to be in. Cheers,Bill |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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To throw this in there, I am also a fan of the Emerson Seagull for some strange reason. When I saw the one that Ron May restored I was sold on them. Would be nice to be able to do a restoration on an oscillating version. I am not as big of a fan of the non-oscillating version. I know they aren't popular or very well made compared to a cast iron fan, but I guess that's what makes collecting unique. We each have our own things that attract out eyes to them. Last edited on Sun Dec 28th, 2014 09:38 am by Cory Baughn |
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Roark Anderson Guest 
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I just sold a nice brass bell oscillator a few days ago to bad I didn't see this thread sooner. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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That is a total bummer! I am a fan of the brass bells. They are good looking fans. I have found a few fans, although I am not sure if they are worth it. Here is a GE that I found, but I have no idea what could be wrong with the oscillating mechanism. They are so simple inside there that it must be a stripped gear from what I have seen in pictures of other GE gearboxes - http://www.ebay.com/itm/281534229882?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l4448&_trkparms=gh1g%3DI281534229882.N1.S1.M1288 With this fan I am not sure if the Emerson Jr is desirable, but the little 8" size seems very unique - http://www.ebay.com/itm/EMERSON-B-Jr-8-inch-O-Early-FAN-/221642484299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339aebea4b |
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Roark Anderson Guest
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I have one of those little 10" juniors mounted on my wall. It's a wonderful little fan and a good runner. Mine get's hot fast though. |
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Roark Anderson Guest
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Here's what you need. This is a really cool fan. http://www.ebay.com/itm/331419559494?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT This one is much more reasonably priced and also pretty neat. http://www.ebay.com/itm/281539512479?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I wish that little Emerson had brass blades. The only thing that would make me iffy about buying it. I am such a fan of brass. Awesome stuff to work with. |
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Craig Robbins Guest 
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Take your time and find the one you really want. I will keep my eye out for ya bud :) I'm still trying to work a deal with that guy with the locker full of fans. If you look up my old posts, you can see them. Cya...Craig............. P.S. look for local yard sales/thrift stores/flea markets Last edited on Sun Dec 28th, 2014 03:17 pm by Craig Robbins |
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Fred Berry Guest 
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If you like stationary fans and since you are a 'fan' of GE, go for a BMY. These have large motors, as large as those on Westy tank motors. BMY's are all cast iron, motor, base, trunnion, have brass cages and brass blades, brass acorns on the motor, brass trunnion screws, really nice fans and extremely reliable. They come up often on fleaBay and sell fairly reasonable, $250 $350 price range unrestored. 08' - 09' models have centrifugal-start motors, while 10' and up have phase shift motors. You can get BMY's in 4-wing or 6-wing. The large motor used in BMY fans was the most popular motor coveted by other fan companies for use in some of their models, Jandus, Eck, Diehl, Hunter, FWEW, heck, even Westinghouse, GE's biggest rival, used a GE BMY motor sidewinder oscillator as one of their own models! This was a very popular, reliable electric motor. I recommend this above and beyond all others as your first fan. You will love it. GE's pancake motor fans are reliable too, but I do not recommend: Their prices are way too high for a starter fan, and parts for them are also very expensive. An SMY (Small Motor Yoke) uses a similar motor as found in the loop-handle oscillators, but in a stationary form. A loop-handle star or brass bell is a good starter too, but getting them with brass cages may be difficult. Personally, I am a big fan of the very early Century skeletal-motor fans. These always came with brass cage and blades, and the motors have totally open end bells so you can watch the internals in action, hence the collector nickname 'skeletal motor'. The earliest had cast iron base to go with the cast iron motors, also the motors were centrifugal start. Later skeletals had drawn steel bases plus the motors were phase-shift. All skeletal motors were cast iron, and they all, centrifugal start or phase shift, have a neat magnetic, musical hum to the motor. Only problem with Century fans is that they were mainly used in large offices and factories, hence they are often well-worn when they come up for sale on eBay. Century skeletals were not used in private residences very much, though Century did make a 6-wing skeletal fan, these are quite rare, known 6-wingers can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Buuuuut, when you restore a skeletal, you will have one of the most reliable running fans known. I have run mine for entire summer's without ever turning them off...even oiling them "on the run". Skeletal Century's also were also the only other fans besides GE pancakes to have 5-speeds. My avatar picture here is the rear end of a Century skeletal fan. My recommendation for the Century company is only for their early cast iron 5-speed fans, their later 3-speed fans were mostly pot metal and the worst pot metal castings of any fan company, notorious for crumbling into pieces by themselves. |
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David Hoatson Guest 
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I had one of those water powered fans. Sold it 'cus it ran hot. Should have hooked it up to the cold water, I guess.  |
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Paul Alexander AFCA Member 
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Cory, You might have a look at this one: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=19228390 Still 10 hours left on the auction but this is goodwill not eBay! You might have a chance on it if interested! Good luck! Paul Attached Image (viewed 1505 times): |
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Roark Anderson Guest
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Makes me wonder who donated a Jandus fan to Goodwill. |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Roark Anderson wrote: This one is much more reasonably priced and also pretty neat.Quite interesting. See how the cage has been reworked or repaired and the missing original flat struts made new with wire struts? |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Cory Baughn wrote: Here is a GE that I found, but I have no idea what could be wrong with the oscillating mechanism. They are so simple inside there that it must be a stripped gear from what I have seen in pictures of other GE gearboxes - I bet that GE brass bell may be ok but the seller has not been able to turn the oscillator knob to the on position. Those knobs can get so tight that it takes pliers or something to grip the knob well to get it to loosen and turn. But, maybe not... The B-Jr is not as quality as the Jr and some run quite hot but I think the 8" B-Jr runs cooler. Nice fans. The older Jr. also was made in an 8" oscillator, very nice fans most of the Jrs. and B-Jrs but not up to the higher quality and more features of the high grade Emersons including the 8" and 9" fan. Love the 19644 especially for its three speeds, small size, all iron and brass, and runs pretty quietly. Many GEs have a characteristic "GE whine" which I find intrudes into my peace of mind when they are running. GE pancakes and R&M cast iron fans do not do that. But I would recommend a GE loop handle, even a BMY and you can see if you like them. |
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James Guinn Guest 
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Tanks are great fans but you may have completion  . I have 2 of the r and m tanks pictured by Steve and they're great!! |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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James Guinn wrote: ...but you may have completion I think you mean he may have trouble in the completion of his bid on ebay- and winning the fan- because of competition?? Eventually the competition moves on to other things (usually) and prices return to normal. Not with GE pancakes though and, why do I think this, not with most other iron and brass fans anymore? Supply and demand. People need to move on to collecting the "tin fans" of the 30s through 50s. |
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James Guinn Guest
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Steve Stephens wrote: James Guinn wrote:...but you may have completion iPhone misspelled competition, lol |
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Chris A. Campbell Guest
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If you want a small inexpensive brass bladed fan watch for GE Whizs. Oscillating and stationary. Simple to restore and cost around $100 |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I found this Westinghouse, but they said the oscillator isn't working. Is there a common part in there that goes bad? I really like the look of this fan. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321628029686?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Here is an Emerson, but it is missing the oscillator link bar and what looks like to me to be an oil cup above the oscillator. If I'm not wrong these are impossible to find because of them being an odd size. I might be totally off on all of that though. I think I could offer $225 and get it. My budget is going to have to go up, but I think dad will loan me the cash till I get back to work. He likes to see me working on stuff bringing it back to life. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1920s-Emerson-RARE-Model-29666-Electric-Fan-12-6-Brass-Parker-Blades-/321627274848?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae27abe60 |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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The Westy is a 1912-13 model where you have to remove the stator to change the head wire unlike (sometimes) the later models that have a small port to get into. There are pot metal parts (bearing carriers front and rear and neck, maybe a few other parts) that can be a problem. Parts should be available some. A good design but hard to work on. If the oscillator linkage is worn or broken you'd need more parts. Price seems high for that fan considering condition. The 29666 was made only one year, 1922, before the 71666 replaced it. The missing oiler would probably not be too hard to find, the osc. linkage I don't know if it would be hard to not so hard. That one has a terrible "restoration" but looks like it would re-restore nicely. |
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William Dunlap AFCA Member
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Go for the Emerson. Get a promise that they'll pack it right. Check out George's Softpak (registered trademark) method and suggest that they pack it that way. I've got an earlier version of this fan but basically it looks identical to it. A very fine daily runner. It's a winner! Cheers,Bill |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Bill, look at the collar thing on the base right below the motor. Looks like it has a chunk missing from it. Do you see that too? Is is chipped badly like I think it is? And pot metal is a no go for me Mr. Stephens. After working on an old radio today and busting the needle indicator for the channel after applying finger pressure, I am no longer interested in owning ANYTHING pot metal. Last edited on Mon Dec 29th, 2014 10:06 am by Cory Baughn |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Cory, you are correct, those Emerson collars were made of pot metal and often broke. The collar on this one is broken as you see. The 29666 was the last of the large motor Emerson residence fans, though the large motor was used more on the huge 16" models. Speaking of which, I recommend your first fan to be 12". 16" fans are too large, too noisy, and move way too much air for use in a house, plus they are hard to store because of their large size. Anything below 12" is too small, though some 10" fans like the Westinghouse Darth Vader move more air than many larger fans. 8" and below are too small, they are fun to restore and run as novelties, but do not move enough air to circulate a room. Fans of that small size were meant as personal fans. 12" is perfect, especially a 6-wing residence fan like the 29666. TJ Downy has made replacement Emerson collars out of steel or aluminum, if I remember correctly. I think Darryl Hudson can make the oscillator arm. Emerson fans are well known for their quality motors which are the most reliable ever made. The distinctive looking 6-wing blade on their residence fans like this 29666 are over the top in looks, one member here referred to them as looking "like a wall of brass". One problem is the cage, which is steel. I know you are looking for a brass cage. Anyhow, large Emerson motors are quite user friendly to work on, and the 6-wingers like this one have a wonderful soft 'white sound' when running, making them good for 'sleep fans'. The Westinghouse fan here would be a challenge to restore, plus it has alot of pot metal which you do not like. |
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William Dunlap AFCA Member
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Cory, Did you make an offer? If you do, base it on the parts you have to buy to get it up to snuff. Darryl has aluminum collars for it at I think 45$ each and he may even have an arm for it. No worries, someone here will have one. Expect 10 or 20$ tops for one. Cheers,Bill |
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Jeff Whitfield AFCA Member 
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What about an R&M gearback oscillator ... List No. 1153 (12-inch ) or List No. 1159 (16-inch)? These are cast iron -- with cast iron oscillator boxes and without the potmetal of GE and Emerson of the same era. They have brass cages, too, but cast iron struts. These fans, pricewise, are comparable to the 29666 in the ebay ad and, IMO, they're better than the 29666. You get more to play with in a restoration. There's the R&M List No. 3600 (10-inch blade) fan. It's got brass blades, cast iron cage construction and struts whose material is either cast iron or maybe steel. I can't remember.It also has the cast iron oscillator box. Costwise, this fan is less expensive in the $100+ neighorhood, but it's stout and even has brushes. Potmetal stinks, but GE potmetal is o.k. GE loophandle fans -- Those have potmetal boxes, thick ones, too, and they don't seem to break as often as the exquisitely lousy potmetal of Century fans. Emerson potmetal gearboxes are o.k., too. The GE Kidney oscillators have those fat potmetal oscillator boxes and those tend to have hidden cracks. I'd think buying a GE Kidney oscillator from a club member would be a far better bet than Ebay. Seems that Kidney oscillators sometimes have a tough time trekking through shipping and arriving unbroken. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I did not make an offer Mr. Dunlap, not yet. He was trying to tell me that he would throw in shipping and the total be $299 but that is just too much for me for a broken fan. I can hold out as long as a month I feel like to wait on something that is complete. For $200-$220 I would've pounced I think. And Jeff I really like the R&M gear back, I believe that is what Craig had when I went over to his house to have him show me how to fix headwires and have him fix mine on the GE I redid. I will do research right now on the 3600 too. Thank you for the tip on those, I wouldn't have thought that I could've found an R&M gear back for my price range without serious luck. And yes, pot metal seems to be my bane after that radio. It was a Zenith H723Z, nice looking thing and even has AM/FM from 1950 but man was it a booger to get apart with the huge pot metal indicator needle. Looking forward to anything and I guess the hunt can be part of the fun with fans. I guess if they all landed in our laps there would be no story behind it, and I'm getting to meet a lot of new folks thru the search which is the bigger win to me. Last edited on Tue Dec 30th, 2014 09:33 am by Cory Baughn |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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R&M 3600 is a very nice oscillating fan although it has a stamped steel motor and base. The 3000 is the non-oscillator version. I don't think either have pot metal. A GE 2 or 3 star from 1915 (Form R) and maybe 1916 Form S is all cast iron with no pot metal if you don't get the early one with the pot metal oscillator wheel. Gearboxes on GEs 1915-24 are all cast iron. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I actually had someone PM me about a 2 star they had a couple days ago but haven't heard back yet. I like the 3 star better but 2 is good enough for a first fan! |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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The mid to later 2 stars are usually steel cages, some with a mix of steel and brass wires so check that before buying. I think there are also some unusual stator winding designs in some of the late teens GEs. Last edited on Tue Dec 30th, 2014 06:51 pm by Steve Stephens |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-ROBBINS-amp-MYERS-BLACK-BRASS-039-STANDARD-034-1404-WORKING-FAN-/361161806546?nma=true&si=RRzYgTocV3J%252FKs9fQsGeKJSXJYE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Dude said he'd take $350 shipped for it. That is way, way more than I wanted to spend really, but if that is like a smoking good deal I don't think I could pass it up. I could even pass the deal onto one of you fellas if I ended up not being able to afford it if it's like a super good deal. Let me know though and I will do the deal if it is and figure out what to do later! Also, is that fan too nice to tear down and restore? http://www.ebay.com/itm/221647107666?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Also found this but it need an ID tag. Does anyone produce Westy tank ID plates? Last edited on Tue Dec 30th, 2014 09:48 pm by Cory Baughn |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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I think you can do better with other fans. The R&M looks good but is missing the proper and probably impossible bronze wing screw for the tilt, and has a thumbscrew in its place that is not correct. The Westy needs some serious cage repairs but Donald Coleman can make you a super nice motor tag. But what Style number to put on the tag? Your guess could be wrong not that that would necessarily matter. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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And that is why I always post something here! LOL thanks so much. I would've never caught the thumb screw thing. I didn't notice anything wrong with the Westy cage. What is up with it? That motor tag being attainable makes that a bit more tempting but yeah you are right, there are better things to be had probably. The search continues. I have several leads though from members that will hopefully work out with one of them! |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Cory Baughn wrote: I didn't notice anything wrong with the Westy cage. What is up with it? Cages where the S-wires are pinned into the rear ring are subject to getting broken off at that point if bent and/or straightened. GE cages from 1901-07 are notorious to have the front of the cage partially or fully broken off from the rear of the cage. If no shade tree mechanic trys to "fix" those breaks by brazing, soldering, etc. they can be better repaired by shortening the wire where it broke so all wires are the same length and reinserted to the back ring leaving a repair only discernible to those looking for a repair. (GE cages that are 3/16" shorter than normal to be explicit). Those Westy cage wires break very easily if bent much and straightened. It's no big deal to have some wires broken off but it's the amateur repair that messes things up and makes it hard to impossible to end up with a good looking cage. Always look from the side at Westy brass cages to see if any brazing, etc. has been done to the S-wires to the rear ring. |
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Stephen Chew AFCA Member 
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Hi Cory, Take your time and you will find a better deal. The R&M 3804 isn't a good deal. My wife picked up a nice one for a whole lot less at a estate auction. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Thanks Mr. Stephen, that is great knowledge to have on future fans I find that I might buy. More I learn the better! Especially about fans, something I plan on sticking with for a long, long time.  |
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Fred Berry Guest
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It is a shame that the 1404 was missing the wing screw. Cory, the attached photo is of one of my 1404's and on the left, you can see the fancy R&M wing screw that Steve is talking about. These are uber-fancy and would be hard to replace, as I do not know of anyone here who makes them like that. Anyhow, I hope that you get the fan that you and I were talking about, off-forum. Attached Image (viewed 1231 times): |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Those R&M wing screws are also SHOULDER wing screws and the shoulder compresses against the side of the trunnion to lock it in place securely and even a baby can operate the tilt on these fans unlike most that are not terribly secure or easy to manipulate. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Yes I love the 1404, but that was deinfitely a deal breaker after seeing all this info as well. Glad it didn't work out, and that was a lot more than I wanted to give. I actually want something I won't feel bad about repainting as well. That's the part I enjoy unless it is a really, really good fan and then it would be fun bringing what is there back to life. This fan the guy offered to let me have it for $175 shipped. It's the one with the broken part on the neck where the oscillator attaches. If I could run one of those down cheap that might be a good deal. I really like the 6 wingers. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321627274848 |
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William Dunlap AFCA Member
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You could do a lot worse that that. These are great fans. As you can see, there are almost as many opinions about old fans as there are folks who work on the them and collect them. Just so you are aware....a lot of the guys around here tend to be especially helpful to newer and younger members. So if you bought this fan, you would have little difficulty is finding the parts you need. Me? Not so much  I'm still looking for that elusive Northwind armature.... Cheers,Bill |
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Lamar Bass Guest 
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Cory Baughn wrote: Thanks Mr. Stephen, that is great knowledge to have on future fans I find that I might buy. More I learn the better! Especially about fans, something I plan on sticking with for a long, long time. P,M sent |
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Craig Robbins Guest
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Here is a collar....http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Antique-Emerson-Fan-Oscillator-Collar-Part-w-Arm-/361170108661?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54176a80f5 |
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David Hoatson Guest
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Sometimes you can get an c. 1920 Emerson for a good price. The 12" is common and the xx645 is very nice. Look at this on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221647107809 vintage EMERSON 29646 brass blade fan, for restoration or parts Attached Image (viewed 1234 times): |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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I am in the works of talking a guy into an Emerson 29666 fan that is a 6 winger for a good price. eBay seller, it needs a couple parts but it seems to be a solid, solid fan. |
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Charles Tedrick AFCA Member 
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Sometimes who you choose to purchase your fan from can be just as, if not more important than what type you choose. If you pick a reputable forum member the fan will packed correctly and you will not get taken for a ride by someone just looking to make a fast buck or empty grandpas attic and might pack your fan in a paper bag with a post-it label for your address on it. There are plenty of nice types of fans to choose from but you may want to buy your first few fans right here from reputable people.  |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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As long as the seller can remove the blade and cage without damage to them or to the stator windings you may do ok. If he tries to pack and ship with the blade on he had better be doing it somewhat the way that I do and that is completed but works very well. I will often take 1-2 hours sending or taking photos to send to a seller as well as writing out detailed and, often maybe too long, "tips" or suggestions on how to pack. If they read and heed the fan usually comes in without damage. I've had a few bent back blades/cages because the seller could not remove the blade but shipped it anyway. Make sure you document your correspondence with the seller so you can get a claim if there is damage. I have had probably close to 100 fans from ebay with no broken cast iron or metal parts, just some fairly minor damage. But you can't leave it up to the seller to pack and ship without YOUR input with a lot of suggestions and, if they will allow, phone contact with them to discuss packing. I always take photos as I unpack an item in case there is damage.. This 1910 Royal typewriter arrived yesterday and was packed as if the factory did it. Not a hard typewriter to pack and the metal case made it easier but certain thing needed to be done in packing the the seller exceeded my expectations by a large margin. Attached Image (viewed 1161 times): |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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He used that great spongy closed cell foam, a "log" of rolled bubble wrap as I had suggested to her ("her" husband did the packing as he does on hard to pack items she said), and a good, sturdy, new box. Here is after the typewriter was removed and the case lifted off. For more info on packing you can look at my packing and shipping a fan with blade and cage on. I do NOT recommend that ebay sellers try this due to the complexity and room for error. I've shipped about 12 fans this way including 16" brass and iron with no damage. …………..How to pack a fan with cage and blade on. - Pre-1950 (Antique) - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums Attached Image (viewed 1199 times): |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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As an update I got a fan fellas! I ended up getting the 29666 and I had bid on, and about the same time a guy I had asked about a small GE 6" H series sent me a message back saying he'd take $50 shipped for it! Given the market on these I've seen recently that seemed like a great deal for a running fan. I plan on restoring it and trying to figure out how that Radio Shack Diode is wired up that Mr. Huber mentions on a few threads. I'll get pictures of them up when they arrive. Now that I've got my first fan I guess the "hunt" is over as far as first fans go. I still am looking for a Century Skeletal though and Fred Berry is helping me look as well. Probably my favorite fan besides the rare ones that are out of my reach. The sound they make starting up is just too cool. Last edited on Fri Jan 9th, 2015 10:02 am by Cory Baughn |
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Craig Robbins Guest
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I can help with the radio shack "diode"....Bridge rectifier. I wired one into my DC R&M 2303. This is the fan........http://www.afcaforum.com/view_topic.php?id=35048&forum_id=1&jump_to=296832#p296832 |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Awesome Craig! I'll be riding over sometime soon with your stuff too. Gotta look for a switch too for that GE. That'll be the fan on the back burner though till the other stuff is done I guess. Gonna take some time hunting parts. |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Cory, Congrats on getting a 29666. You're starting out with the best fan maker, and a 12" 6-pole 6-winger at that! Please post photos when you get it and its restoration. As Ron May said in another post, a polished set of Emerson blades is "like a wall of brass". Emerson 6-wing blades have an awesome shape to them. Parts for these are easy to come by, and several skilled people here also make parts in case you cannot find originals. Photo: Emerson "Wall of brass" Attached Image (viewed 1036 times): |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Can you put one of those rectifiers in any fan? My grandmothers needs slowing by half at least. |
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Don Tener Guest 
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Cory Baughn wrote: Can you put one of those rectifiers in any fan? My grandmothers needs slowing by half at least. A rectifier is for changing AC current to DC. If you want to slow it down you will need a Variac. Look here https://www.google.com/search?q=variac&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=JvmxVJjIFuzisASy6YGABg&ved=0CHsQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=946#imgdii=_ |
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Rob Byledbal Guest 
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Congrats Cory!! |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Thanks Rob and thanks for the info Dan, another thing I need to know and learn about. I think I've seen a Varian in my grandpa's shop, I'll get down there tomorrow and see if I am right. Save some money if so. And I wish my Emerson was that early of one Fred, I love that open cage without the badge on those older ones. Last edited on Sun Jan 11th, 2015 11:12 am by Cory Baughn |
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Gordon Sommers AFCA Member 
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Cory, What you need to do is come over to Lousiana next month to the Mardi-Gras fan meet and find you a fan. Then you know what you are getting. At the fan meets there are always good friends and good deals. Come on over hope to see ya there. I'll be bringing some for sale. |
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Andrew Block Guest
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I agree about the MG meet in New Iberia. The 1404 is a nice, reliable, fairly easy to work on fan. |
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Cory Baughn Guest
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Yeah if I can get off I will do my hardest. How expensive is lodging around there? I'm a good ways away and would need to get a place to bed down for sure. |
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