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| 1902 GE backswitch cake on eBay | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 04:33 pm |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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1902 GE backswitch pancake fan. Not perfect, but not too bad either. I am not the seller, but I think this is a pretty fair price for this fan, personally. It needs a cage badge, and needs the motor to be flipped back over, right side up, but looks pretty complete. Needs a new knob on the switch as well. Just sharing it here so that perhaps an AFCA member can get it before it's gone. It'll probably go quick. http://www.ebay.com/itm/121554945959 . Last edited on Tue Jan 27th, 2015 04:39 pm by Marc Barnes |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 05:03 pm |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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It's gone. Did someone who saw it here buy the fan?
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 05:12 pm |
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Roark Anderson Guest 
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Shoot I missed it! I can't seen to find a pancake for under 600
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 05:27 pm |
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Rich Becher AFCA Member 
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That was a fair deal, thanks Marc! All my back switches are sticks, so a trunnion is nice.....
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 05:35 pm |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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Rich Becher wrote: That was a fair deal, thanks Marc! All my back switches are sticks, so a trunnion is nice..... Sweet! Glad you got it Rich.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 06:17 pm |
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Michael Rathberger Guest 
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Certain pictures make that look like a 14" fan, tough to tell and I don't even know if they made them that year, but if it is, congrats.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 06:49 pm |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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I'm pretty sure it's a 12" ... I think it would have an extra "bulb" or whatever you call it in the stem if it were 14". Also, this isn't a completely reliable method, but the cage badge for this cake is 2.25" in diameter. So obviously, three of them in a row should total 6.75" wide/long. Using that idea, three of them side-by-side, stretched from the hub to the end of the wing in the image, are quite a bit longer than a single 6" wing. I think if this were a 14" fan, the wing should be past the edge of the three "cage badges" in a row. Like I said, this isn't a perfect way of measuring, but it usually works for me when I'm trying to quickly estimate a measurement of the unknown length of something in an image, by using the known length of something else in the same image. Perspective of the items in the image, depth of items within the image "field" etc., will all impact the measurements, of course. Attached Image (viewed 846 times): Last edited on Tue Jan 27th, 2015 06:53 pm by Marc Barnes |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 06:51 pm |
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Josh Backens Guest 
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Nice Rich! I especially like the super rare handle
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 07:52 pm |
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Steve Stephens Guest 
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The biggest problem with that fan is the cage which will need much work or a new cage maybe. See the soldered or brazed rear ring joints? The 14" pancakes used the same cage badge as the 12" ones, not the large badge from the 16" GEs of that period. 14" cakes made in stick model only and at least through 1901, not sure about 1902.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27th, 2015 11:26 pm |
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Roark Anderson Guest
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For those who are bummed they missed the last one here's another cake that so far is still at a pretty good price considering the seller said it runs on all five speeds. http://www.ebay.com/itm/271751288146?_trksid=p2055359.m1431.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28th, 2015 12:30 am |
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Rich Becher AFCA Member
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Steve Stephens wrote: The biggest problem with that fan is the cage which will need much work or a new cage maybe. See the soldered or brazed rear ring joints? I can work that cage, just need a badge....maybe I should cast one from epoxy resin and paint it gold? Who would know? A magnet wont stick..... Haha....just messing... But I will be experimenting with molding a switch knob for it.
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 12:22 am |
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Rich Becher AFCA Member
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A badge from Ted, butt welded the wires to extend them then re-cut and peened them. back to original..... Attached Image (viewed 625 times):
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 12:22 am |
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Rich Becher AFCA Member
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2 Attached Image (viewed 619 times):
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 02:51 am |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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Very nice work Rich. Looking forward to seeing this whole fan completed, if you post some pics. Are you restoring the whole fan, or just repairing what's broken and leaving it at that?
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 07:07 am |
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David Hoatson Guest 
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Another 1902: Look at this on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=291474507629 GE GENERAL ELECTRIC Type AD Ribbed Base Brass Blade Pancake Motor 1890 Fan RUNS Attached Image (viewed 533 times):
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 07:16 am |
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Roark Anderson Guest
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I bet it's gonna go for a lot.
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 08:25 pm |
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Gary Hagan Guest 
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What's with the Ebay postings guys?
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 08:32 pm |
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Roark Anderson Guest
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I'm sure all the members found the listing anyway, so posting it here probably won't raise the price very much.
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| Posted: Mon May 25th, 2015 11:06 pm |
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Gary Hagan Guest
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I'm sure there are/were plenty of people watching but you guys are making it too easy for people... I've been guilty in the past as well but now think it's best to let people find these auctions on their own. People can and will do what they want I'm just saying it isn't making the going prices any cheaper. Ya know?
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 01:48 am |
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Doug Handley AFCA Member 
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Gary Hagan wrote: I'm just saying it isn't making the going prices any cheaper. But think how happy it makes the sellers  (who don't happen to be me)
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 02:13 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest
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Doug oddly enough thats how a lot of these posts start. I know you have all see something like: "I am not the seller", or "It's not my auction and I don't know the seller"... Which really equates to "In an effort to over inflate the price of a fan that I don't have any interest in purchasing" BIN fans are a different story. I appreciate when folks bring those to the forums attention. I could even see posting something really cool like a Basketweave or a really rare fan just so that other members can see a real example of one of these.. But for the relatively common, middle priced fans let people find them on their own, no sense in broadcasting the availability to everyone. I search ebay quite regularly and don't always find every auction. I am sure that is the case with other members as well. If we are going to allow posting of third party ebay listings (non member auctions) we should collude amongst ourselves have a rule in place that would only let one member bid per auction. Might as well build an ebay directory of usernames matched with AFCA members to be fully transparent. Yeah that will happen! Ha
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 03:31 am |
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Royal Norman AFCA Member 
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Totally agree with Gary. This should be for posting something an individual is selling, not an announcement page for stuff we see on the internet.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 05:07 am |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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I disagree, and have no issue with members posting links to active fan listings on eBay or anywhere else, whether it is the member's listing or not, and whether it is auction, BIN, etc. There have been at least a dozen listings for rare and desirable fans which I would have loved to have gotten cheap, which were shared here on the forum in the last several months. In every case, I saw the listing before it was posted here by someone else, in most cases I was already a bidder for the fan, and in every case I've had absolutely no issue with others posting the listing here, even if it meant I didn't get it cheap because they did so (which is highly unlikely anyway). Maybe doing so raises the price of the fan, maybe it doesn't. Either way, members should be (and are) allowed to post them here to ask questions about the fan in the listing, or to simply share the listing with fellow members. Also, there are some members who appreciate it when fellow members post the listings here.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 05:19 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest
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Marc I think that is understood considering you often post ebay listings that are not your own. I'm not trying to start a royal rumble here or anything its just that in an effort to be helpful you are without a doubt drawing more attention , and potential bidders to auctions, thus driving up the price. If its your fan or a fan of the members then I say go for it. On the other hand and in these cases who gains from this? Not you, not us, only the seller gains from it. You can keep doing you.. We don't have to like it though.. Last edited on Tue May 26th, 2015 06:09 am by Gary Hagan |
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 05:27 am |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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When I will be bidding on a fan or considering doing so I don't like to see anything posted about the fan. Draws more attention, possibly more or higher bids, and may make it harder or more expensive and less likely to win. It's like "hey, lookie here, nice fan". Some who either hadn't seen it or hadn't checked it out for some reason might become competing bidders. I won't post active auctions of fans that might be desirable. Last edited on Tue May 26th, 2015 05:28 am by Steve Stephens |
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 06:04 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest
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And let's face it. It's like setting a 12 pack of cold beer on the table at an AA meeting. We are all fan addicts. If you expose us to it we are going to want it.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 06:08 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest
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Also Marc, respectfully, why do you think it is highly unlikely that these actions aren't driving up the bids? I am having a hard time understanding the thought process behind that statement.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 06:13 am |
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Marc Barnes Guest
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Steve Stephens wrote: When I will be bidding on a fan or considering doing so I don't like to see anything posted about the fan. Draws more attention, possibly more or higher bids, and may make it harder or more expensive and less likely to win. It's like "hey, lookie here, nice fan". Some who either hadn't seen it or hadn't checked it out for some reason might become competing bidders. I won't post active auctions of fans that might be desirable. I understand that. I initially feel the same sometimes when it happens -- "Oh shoot, somebody posted it on the forum. There goes any chance of me winning it now." But then I remember what drives me to think that way, and choose to be happy for whoever wins it instead of sad because I may not, or because it may cost me more money than I wanted to pay. If someone (my "competition") wins the fan because they saw someone post it here, that's great! I'm happy for them. Paraphrasing a well-known quote -- It's better to give than to receive.
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| Posted: Tue May 26th, 2015 06:21 am |
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Gary Hagan Guest
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You seem like a nice guy Marc. I admire and envy your selflessness. From a biblical perspective I cannot argue with your logic. Go forth my son and spread the word! That said I won't be taking you to my best fishing holes.. I hope you understand :) Just having a little fun and in no way mean to disrespect.
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