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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 02:54 am |
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Don Tener Guest 
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Very nice looking fan. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-Antique-JANDUS-ELECTRIC-DESK-FAN-Cast-Iron-Brass-Case-USA-/371383907370?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567834b42a
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 05:28 am |
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Geoff Dunaway AFCA Member 
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Looks like an interesting frankenjandus with all jandus parts. Cage & base likely belong to each other , motor , yoke & blade likely off of an abandoned gyrofan. Great parts for 2 different projects. 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 09:24 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 09:28 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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Count how many switch lever contacts on the Jandus ball motor brushed fan motor AC switch. Attached Image (viewed 1256 times):
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 09:31 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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Fig. #5 in the diagram is the Jandus Ball motor direct current 4 position switch. Count how many switch lever contacts there are. Fig. #4 in the diagram is the Alternating current 3 position switch. Depending on how the laminated stator brushed ball motor was wired is what circuit it would tolerate. To short out the brushes resulted in a AC induction repulsion motor. To wire the motor in series resulted in a direct current fan. Attached Image (viewed 1213 times): Last edited on Fri Jul 17th, 2015 10:23 am by Russ Huber |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 09:37 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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AB/Jandus 1911+ centrifugal start alternating current induction fan motor. This motor has been found with a National Screw & Tack motor tag. AB/Jandus was absorbed by National Screw & Tack in 21. Attached Image (viewed 1263 times):
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 09:48 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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4 position switch. Fig.#5. Attached Image (viewed 1254 times):
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 03:55 pm |
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Stephen Sanders Guest 
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If the bidders are AFCA members I hope they read this thread
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 04:23 pm |
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Bill Hoehn AFCA Member 
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Just turning it 180 degrees (right side up) would help!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 04:57 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest 
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Bill Hoehn wrote: Just turning it 180 degrees (right side up) would help! Hahahahaha!! Bill is right. The motor is not only upside down, but it is in the trunnion backwards. However it is the rather rare AB/National Tack/Or whatever motor, and that's probably why the price is climbing so high. Get the correct bulbous base for this and you would have a super nice fan. A wire trunnion with this type motor sure looks better than with the ugly toaster-side ball motor!!←Sorry, I am racist towards ball motors on fanz!!!
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 07:12 pm |
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Chris Smith Guest 
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So is this fan legit or a Franken fan? What fan does this base go to? Last edited on Fri Jul 17th, 2015 07:24 pm by Chris Smith |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 07:33 pm |
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Stephen Sanders Guest
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The stand and switch are from a ball motor stationary Jandus and the motor and wire mount are from an AC Jandus. The cage is most commonly seen on early ball motor Jandi. It did not leave the factory in its current configuration. I was going to bid but it has already exceeded what I would have paid even though I have the correct base for the AC motor and the correct ball motor for the base and switch.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 17th, 2015 07:39 pm |
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Chris Smith Guest
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Stephen Sanders wrote: The stand and switch are from a ball motor stationary Jandus and the motor and wire mount are from an AC Jandus. The cage is most commonly seen on early ball motor Jandi.Thanks for the info Gents, I was gonna put a hefty bid on it, you saved me.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 08:35 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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Jandus desk and bracket alternating and direct current fan motor introduction. Attached Image (viewed 1113 times):
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 08:37 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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The last season for the Jandus round ball brushed alternating current desk and bracket fan motor. Last season for that base on both AC and DC round balls. Attached Image (viewed 1057 times): Last edited on Sat Jul 18th, 2015 09:26 am by Russ Huber |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 08:52 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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The Jandus desk and bracket round ball was designed that the AC model had no speed control from resistance wire located within the base. It was intended to run on two speeds. How was the motor speed adjusted on the AC round ball model?......  Take a break on this one, Kovar. 
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 09:18 am |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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Chris Smith wrote: Stephen Sanders wrote:The stand and switch are from a ball motor stationary Jandus and the motor and wire mount are from an AC Jandus. The cage is most commonly seen on early ball motor Jandi.Thanks for the info Gents, I was gonna put a hefty bid on it, you saved me. Hey, the Joe that has his cross hairs beaded on this one has Jandus/AB parts. All Joe would need is a Jandus round ball motor, wire the motor in series to match the 4 position switch, and ........viola! Next a 09 + Jandus/AB base for the existing motor and trunnion. Or......11 + gyro with identical opposing motor. If you have the parts you can get a double whammy out of this one....fact Jack. Last edited on Sat Jul 18th, 2015 09:24 am by Russ Huber |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 12:15 pm |
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Chris Kelly Guest
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It appears someone saw this as somebody retracted their bid
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 08:17 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Stephen, somebody retracted their bid, almost halving the BIN. If you have the parts, you can turn this into two very rare fans!!!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 18th, 2015 10:30 pm |
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Russ Huber AFCA Member
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Russ Huber wrote: The Jandus desk and bracket round ball was designed that the AC model had no speed control from resistance wire located within the base. It was intended to run on two speeds. The true as advertised Jandus alternating current round ball desk and bracket fan motor gained two speeds based on how the fan was wired and switch position. So far I have only seen roundball Jandus desk fan bases with cast in 4 position markers on either DC or AC models. Maybe rather than cast a special switch lever markings 3 position base for the AC models, Jandus just modified the same switch used for the direct current models. The AC round ball was advertised for years in the electrical trade journals for two speed adjustments gained THROUGH THE MOTOR, NOT THE SWITCH. The AC model was special wired that based on switch lever position the fan would run on either a series wired or Parallel wired circuit. Series wired would offer more ohms and reduction in fan speed. Moving the switch lever on the parallel wired contact would offer less ohm through the windings, thus increased RPM. Last edited on Sat Jul 18th, 2015 10:32 pm by Russ Huber |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2015 04:27 pm |
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Chris Kelly Guest
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-Antique-JANDUS-ELECTRIC-DESK-FAN-Cast-Iron-Brass-Case-USA-WORKING-/351458685231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51d491f12f item was relisted and is at 55 dollars atm
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| Posted: Sun Jul 19th, 2015 04:27 pm |
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Chris Kelly Guest
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Vintage-Antique-JANDUS-ELECTRIC-DESK-FAN-Cast-Iron-Brass-Case-USA-WORKING-/351458685231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51d491f12f item was relisted and is at 55 dollars atm
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2015 02:50 am |
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Don Tener Guest
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Would the base on this one be the right one for the nice Jandus motor? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-12-Antique-Jandus-Adams-Bagnall-Electric-Company-Fan-3-speed-NEW-PICS-/271939090904?
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2015 08:15 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Don Tener wrote: Would the base on this one be the right one for the nice Jandus motor?Yes that is the base. Although a tad high in price, I am surprised that this fan has not been sucked up. Today, people right here are selling/buying common GE BMY fans in the six hundred dollar range. Why not get a much more rare Jandus BMY like this one? It works, all 3-speeds. Well worth the $685 the seller wants for it. If you wanted to buy both fans, you could install the trunnion and AB motor to this base. But I wouldn't only because the GE motor fan here is complete.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 25th, 2015 10:30 pm |
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Chris Kelly Guest
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the motor on the ebay jandus is from a gyrofan i believe as it has terminals on the front for the head wire instead of a hole
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2015 05:39 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Which fan Chris? The BMY fan in the auction Don posted just above has the standard headwire port on the front of the motor, motor is not Centrifugal, Russ says the gyro BMY motors were centrifugal, and on this one here, there is no centrifugal switch. Geoffry Dunaway educated me several yearz ago, on BMY Jandus gyros...He said Jandus made a special terminal that mounted on the front of each BMY motor. All of the AB/American Tack centrifugal motors have insulated terminals on the front bottom of the motor, like a pancake, but on the front instead of the rear. Makes changing the headwire a breeze on the desk fans with this motor.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2015 05:40 pm |
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Chris Kelly Guest
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the one cobbled together with the ornate base
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| Posted: Sun Jul 26th, 2015 06:15 pm |
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Fred Berry Guest
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Yeah that is the AB motor for gyro or desk. Note terminals on front bottom Attached Image (viewed 633 times):
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