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| Posted: Tue Feb 23rd, 2016 06:11 pm |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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I just bought a Westinghouse 10LA4. Everything works, but it needs a little cleaning and restoration. The is some kind of material in a groove around the base:  I can't make out what it is and it may not be what was originally there, anyway. What was in there and is there a source for a replacement? It's pretty quiet but I'd like to lubricate it. I don't see any lubrication points, though. Do I have to take it apart to lubricate everything?
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| Posted: Tue Feb 23rd, 2016 09:40 pm |
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Lawrence Smith AFCA Member 
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I believe you are missing the felt covered steel base , the material shown is the remnants of that. to oil look again on the top between the grooves-- there is oil ports in the middle groove towards the front & back , might be covered with dust /debris but they are there. Lawrence
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 12:41 am |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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It looks like something was in the groove around the perimeter of the base. Is there some kind of felt that goes there?
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 01:33 am |
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Tony Clayton Guest 
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I believe there was merely a bead of felt in the channel around the perimeter of the base
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 02:29 am |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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I loosened the screw holding the fan on but it won't come off the shaft. I'm afraid to force it. Is there a safe way to pull it off? When you say "bead of felt" is something like that available? Last edited on Wed Feb 24th, 2016 02:39 am by Steve Shelton |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 03:51 am |
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John Fengel AFCA Member 
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When you say "bead of felt" is something like that available? I've used window screen spline with a little Contact Cement to hold it in. Worked good.John
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 04:07 am |
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Charlie Forster Guest 
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look here and I think there is another link with more info http://www.afcaforum.com/forum5/40995.html
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 02:26 pm |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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I still can't understand how the felt is held to the base. Is there some kind of plate the felt is wrapped around before it's attached to the base? I found this thread: http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/22061.html but it doesn't show how to actually attach the felt. It sure would be a helpful tutorial for one of you experts to write!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 04:00 pm |
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Tom Zapf AFCA Member
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Jeff Rusnak is your best reference here on these fans, send him a PM he can tell you
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 05:06 pm |
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Lawrence Smith AFCA Member
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/151846041790?rmvSB=true check out this ebay fan, it might answer some questions Lawrence
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| Posted: Wed Feb 24th, 2016 05:40 pm |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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Thanks, that helps a lot. I've seen the type of piping material that's in the base but I don't know what it is. Do you know?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 25th, 2016 05:54 am |
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Jeff Rusnak AFCA Member 
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Steve,I got your email and replyed back,but it bounced as undeliverable.Anyway your fan never had a base plate.The 10's never did but the 12's did.Originally Westinghouse used a square type felt glued in place around the channel,later models just had 3 pieces equally in the channel.Ive found that if you go to your hardware store or home center a screen repair kit has a round type rubber or silicone roping that works fine.Cut it to length and press it into the channel.Or you can use an adhesive to keep it in perminatley.Ive seen it in black or grey.Its worked for me fine just not original.Hope this helps,Jeff...
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2016 06:02 pm |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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Thanks, Lawrence, for suggesting I look on Ebay. There are a lot of good photos on those listings. I think this one is the best for showing the base: As Jeff said, it looks like some kind of square felt. I can't find any felt like this but will see if some felt wick will work. I might also try to cut some felt strip material. I used acetone to remove all the gunk off the surface, then used some buffing compound and wax. I think it cleaned up nicely.   One other question. I'd like to clean the oscillator drive shaft and bushing, but it looks like it was pressed together. Is there a way to disassemble this?  Last edited on Sat Feb 27th, 2016 06:03 pm by Steve Shelton |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2016 09:35 pm |
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Lawrence Smith AFCA Member
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The acetone didn't remove paint? That looks good. As for cleaning the gear, I use gasoline or diesel fuel (cheap) to clean up old grease/ grime on gearboxes. An old toothbrush helps,toothpick .also I use compressed air to blow out the debris after scraping/brushing on it .
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| Posted: Mon May 2nd, 2016 01:13 am |
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Steve Shelton Guest
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It's nice that this fan is not particularly rare or collectible, because I don't feel the need to restore it to its original appearance. Even though this fan came with a plastic cord, I really like the look of cloth covered cords. Creative-cables.us has a good selection and I ordered a set from them. The problem is that the cord is a lot thicker and won't fit in the hole in the base. I found a spring in my miscellaneous spring box - I have no idea where it came from – and it fit perfectly. I think it looks better than the original. It was hard to decide what thickness felt I needed for the bottom groove, but after careful measuring I decided that 3/16” thick would be about right. I emailed Duro-Felt and they were able find a 3/16” thick strip of white felt for me. It was 1” wide, so I had to cut off a 3/16” wide piece. I glued it into the groove and it extended out enough to protect a tabletop. I think a 1/4” thick piece would have worked as well or better, though.   It's amazing what a little elbow grease will do. The plastic blades didn't look all that bad, but a little work with Meguiar's Mirror Glaze Plastic Polish made them look a lot better.   I don't know if Meguiar's makes plastic polish any more; the bottle I used has been in my garage for as long as I can remember, and I'm 66. A Meguiar's collector would probably pay more for this bottle than I paid for my fan.  I enjoyed working on this fan and really appreciate the help I've gotten here.
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| Posted: Mon May 2nd, 2016 01:30 am |
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Lawrence Smith AFCA Member
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looks good, great little fans Lawrence
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