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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 05:40 pm |
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Richard Collier Guest
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I just got an Emerson 29646, running on all speeds, but needs and oscillator collar. I want to buy one, if anyone out there has one for sale. Thanks, Richard in Texas. 4098930161
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 10:02 pm |
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John Weaver AFCA Member 
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contact Jerry Bravi in this group. He makes very good ones. I picked one up from him at a meet in the spring.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 11th, 2018 10:15 pm |
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Steve Stephens Guest 
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John Weaver wrote: contact Jerry Bravi in this group. He makes very good ones.That's what I would also recommend. New, not original, but not worn or made of pot metal. His should work better and smoother than an old original and hold up much better. http://www.afcaforum.com/forum2/50147.html
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 03:20 pm |
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Chad Baker AFCA Member 
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I highly doubt an original collar has broken under normal use (though it could happen I guess). I would think once these fans find their way into a collectors hands they are safe from abuse....I would hope.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 03:22 pm |
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Chad Baker AFCA Member
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Richard, I got your message and sent you a reply. We do have these original collars in stock as well as all the hardware to put them back on the fan and for oscillator arm attachment. http://antiquefanparts.com/original-emerson-adjustable-collar-for-12-and-16/
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 05:12 pm |
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NM Whitney Jr. AFCA Member 
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I got one of Bravi's collars for a 71666... quality part, perfect fit. I'm not sure "normal use" applies to this pot metal stuff. The collar on my 71666 was fully intact but had multiple cracks, fissures, crevices and splits. Dropped onto a vinyl floor from 3 feet would likely be enough to cause it to shatter.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 05:17 pm |
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Chad Baker AFCA Member
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Sorry but I don't sell collars with visible damage. Not sure why you would drop it from 3ft to be destroyed by a vinyl floor. I bet the same thing might happen with an edison iron clad if dropped from 3ft on to a vinyl floor.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 08:11 pm |
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Don Tener Guest 
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Chad Baker wrote: Sorry but I don't sell collars with visible damage.I agree with chad. All my collars are original and work fine. I have never had a problem with any of them. If they are solid after all these years why wouldn't they work.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 12th, 2018 11:44 pm |
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Rick Powell AFCA Member 
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I am in the process of repairing two pot metal collars that have multiple spider cracks I presume from normal use, pot metal sometimes self destructs from age. The collar destruction is similar to the Victor pot metal fans that just seem to decay with age. I have soaked them in epoxy then sanded off the excess, so far so good. Don Tener wrote: Chad Baker wrote:Sorry but I don't sell collars with visible damage.I agree with chad. All my collars are original and work fine. I have never had a problem with any of them. If they are solid after all these years why wouldn't they work.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 01:59 am |
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Andrew Block Guest
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I've had 2 collars break under normal use while oscillating. 71666 and a 29668. Fractured right at the oscillating pivot point. I'd buy the steel ones.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 02:27 am |
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Tom Dreesen AFCA Member 
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So someone goes to the trouble of reproducing a part in quantity. Either they are stupid or they see a need in the market. I am going with the latter.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 02:30 am |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Jerry's collars will be near perfect with no wear or slop in the linkage attachments or with the collar worn and loose fitting on the base. Nothing wrong with a good original if it has no wear but how many are like that. Were I to want a collar on a fan that I planned to use a lot, the new one would probably win out.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 03:02 am |
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George Durbin AFCA Member 
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Hi All! Bravi's collars are near perfect! Geo...
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 03:10 am |
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Chris A. Campbell Guest
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I have painted pot metal only to have it disengrate last minute. Years ago asked Jerry to make new lower plates that are notorious for breaking. Pulled a unbroken lower plate and replaced in steel. Attached Image (viewed 694 times):
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 01:32 pm |
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Lane Shirey AFCA Member 
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I’d highly recommend Jerrys work and his parts fit perfectly. And he’s a really nice guy and great to work with. A brand new steel collar is about the same price as a used pot metal one, so why not. His work is par none. I believe he’s currently out of stock, but has plans to make more soon.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 13th, 2018 03:12 pm |
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Don Tener Guest
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Lane Shirey wrote: I’d highly recommend Jerrys work and his parts fit perfectly. And he’s a really nice guy and great to work with. A brand new steel collar is about the same price as a used pot metal one, so why not.I think it is just a question weather you what a fan with original or aftermarket parts. I like original parts. I have yet to have a problem with an original collar so that is what I use. Now that ratchet on Chris Campbell's fan might be different. They are very thin and I see LOTS of them broken.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 06:53 pm |
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Charlie Wicks AFCA Member 
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NM Whitney Jr. wrote: I got one of Bravi's collars for a 71666... quality part, perfect fit.Pretty much like the pot metal kidney oscillator boxes. Most are cracked or broken altogether. I don't know if it's years of oil and grease that reacts to this type of metal and softens it or what but they do have a lot in common.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 09:16 pm |
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NM Whitney Jr. AFCA Member
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Charlie Wicks wrote: NM Whitney Jr. wrote:I got one of Bravi's collars for a 71666... quality part, perfect fit.Pretty much like the pot metal kidney oscillator boxes. Most are cracked or broken altogether. I don't know if it's years of oil and grease that reacts to this type of metal and softens it or what but they do have a lot in common. Thank you to those who interpreted my statement in the spirit it was intended. I was not intimating that folks here would sell a fan with a bad collar... not at all. I was trying to say that even on a low-mileage, well-maintained fan, pot metal bits are a likely failure point and that drove my decision to get one of Bravi's collars. (I was also saying that the collar I had on my 71666 would likely shatter if I dropped the collar on the floor... not the whole fan... to illustrate how delicate the the collar looks).
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 11:55 pm |
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Jerry Henry AFCA Member
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One would be hard pressed to hear me mention Emerson in a negative regard. but for the life of me I do believe the engineers let me down on this essential part. I have acquired several Emmies with the part missing, but have never had one completely shatter in operation or proper handling. The next 3 pics show serious fatigue but no failure! I just took this collar off of a 24666, but I have others in inventory that I'll replace this one with! Not sure, but I'd almost bet you a food stamp that if you dropped this bubba on a concrete/tile floor an explosion would occur. 
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 11:56 pm |
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Jerry Henry AFCA Member
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 11:57 pm |
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Jerry Henry AFCA Member
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15th, 2018 12:35 am |
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Steve Stephens Guest
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Emerson collar instability example. I forget the story on this one but I think it was a bad collar that I was heating with a torch to try to get one of the screws out of. Pot metal and heat do not like each other. I did have a few 29646 type Emersons with collars that had wear and a sloppy fit on the neck. I also just looked at a number of my oscillating Emersons from 21646 to 24646 to 24 and 27666 and all have tight collars where I don't see any failure. Like people, each collar is a unique individual; some are good and solid and some are not.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2018 02:30 am |
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Daniel OToole AFCA Member
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Yes,Jerry Bravi is great and reasonable!
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2018 03:10 am |
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Mark Behrend AFCA Member 
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I'm with Jerry, never had one break running a fan. I have noticed though, some are made better than others. Probably depends on what they threw in the pot
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| Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2018 07:40 pm |
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Andrew Block Guest
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I once got 10+ 71666's in from a building, all obviously from the same lot. Every single one was broken or missing the collar. I'd agree that it depended alot on the composition of the metal used in any particular run.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 28th, 2018 08:06 am |
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Peter Buffo Guest 
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 My first71666 and broken collar.... hard to tell in picture, but it snapped off with the pin inside and it appears to be cracked in several other spot
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