AFCA Forums Home

 Moderated by: Steve Cunningham, Stan Adams, Rod Rogers  
AuthorPost
Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Posting for this page has been closed.  




I have sent the badges out to George Durbin...he should be receiving them 6/23/2021...at least that is what USPS promises.  George will contact you with payment and shipping.



Please visit new page.

(Sorry for the confusion).  For those who placed their order Here...I will honor the price $50 with free shipping. 

Badges for sale - Buy-Sell-Trade - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums

The new order page is $80 with free shipping...I have to recoup some of my losses.  When you receive your badge and wish to place more, please post in the above link.

....................................................................................................................................................................

Just in case you did not see the message due to lost post from June 13-16, here it is again.

The badge will be discolored due to the high temperature casting and can be remove with polishing.


When you get the badge, feel free to belt sand the  back to level it.  I left plenty of metal in the back for this purpose.  You might want to gently round the perimeter while you are at it.  Please do NOT use a wire wheel to polish.  I like using a dremel with Red Rouge (red rouge is gentle) and wipe with a terry cloth.  I do not like washing off the red rouge completely.  The dark contrast is nice.  The badge will darken a bit with time...some of my badges actually has a nice "brass" tinge with time.

Last edited on Mon Jul 19th, 2021 05:31 am by Louis Luu

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline





Here are the badges that will be filled/solid cast in bronze.
Diehl:




ECK:




Hunter:




Fortwayne...will be similar in thickness to the Diehl/Hunter..solid fill.




J. Stone...my favorite:



Victor badge: I'll be adding 1.2 mm to the outer edge and fix minor chipping issue...came like this.  I did removed extra left over...made it smooth and round.



Last edited on Sat Jun 19th, 2021 02:45 am by Louis Luu

Jon Kovach
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Aug 27th, 2020
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Status: 
Offline
I would like 1 hunter badge please 

Tom Morel
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Dec 25th, 2011
Location: Long Beach, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Will you make a Victor cast badge?

Scott Jeffrey
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Tue Jun 6th, 2017
Location: Clinton Township, Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
1 Eck please. Thank you.

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: The following badges will be sold $50/each...shipping included.  Please put down how many you want here...don't PM...hard to keep track of.  The back will be filled/solid...don't have time right now to mess with pressing...that will be after I'm done with the mini lollipop/vane casting project.  For now...these will be filled/solid cast in bronze....shine up like brass....do not use buffing wheel...use Brasso and toothbrush...otherwise loose detail.  Rick Powell was kind enough to donate the 12 inch Diehl and 12 inch ECK badge.  Rick...you will get yours free...the least I can do.  Charlie Wicks will get 12 inch Hunter...even though he did not ask...He just wants to help...very kind person.  

Sorry for the delay...work has been hectic and it is more cost effective if I cast these all at once.  I been making the lost wax mold for several...the only ones I need to finish up are the Hunter and Fortwayne badges.

I'm hoping George Durbin will volunteer to sell these.  If it does not sale...he will most likely make clocks out of them...don't ask...don't even want to know.  Please do not pay until items are picked up....just tell me how many you want and which ones.



Hee heeeee!

Clocks?  Wut makes yo think that!๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚
Of course I will sell them and mail them!

Last edited on Fri Jan 29th, 2021 04:08 am by George Durbin

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Courtesy of Tom Morel.



Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
No more badge type request please...I need to get these out. Rick Powell has been patiently waiting.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
George Durbin: 1 ECK, 1 FWEW.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
George...I can't get that Avocado green out of my head.:badidea

Stephen Chew
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Feb 7th, 2014
Location: Bridgeton, Missouri USA
Status: 
Offline
Steve Chew: 1 Eck, 1 Victor,

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Jon...double check your fan...I saw your post.  Your fan is 16 inch?  I have a 16 inch Hunter badge...I don't mind throwing that into the mix...I needed one myself.

Jon Kovach wrote: I would like 1 hunter badge please 

Jon Kovach
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Aug 27th, 2020
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: Jon...double check your fan...I saw your post.  Your fan is 16 inch?  I have a 16 inch Hunter badge...I don't mind throwing that into the mix...I needed one myself.

Jon Kovach wrote: I would like 1 hunter badge please 

I have a 12 inch hunter fan. 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: Jon...double check your fan...I saw your post.  Your fan is 16 inch?  I have a 16 inch Hunter badge...I don't mind throwing that into the mix...I needed one myself.

Jon Kovach wrote: I would like 1 hunter badge please 

Here is the 16 inch Hunter Badge.




Jon Kovach
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Aug 27th, 2020
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Iโ€™ll take a 16 inch hunter badge. I just want a badge on the fan. Doesnโ€™t have to be correct. 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Jon...I just wanted to make sure you get the correct badge...no sense in putting an incorrect badge.  I don't mind.

Jon Kovach wrote: Iโ€™ll take a 16 inch hunter badge. I just want a badge on the fan. Doesnโ€™t have to be correct. 

Last edited on Fri Jan 29th, 2021 05:30 am by Louis Luu

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: George Durbin: 1 ECK, 1 FWEW.
Yup! I will take an Eck And FWEW...
Thnx in advance!

Geo...

Levi Mevis
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Feb 24th, 2015
Location: Elkhart, Indiana USA
Status: 
Offline
I'll take 1 16" Hunter Electric Badge.  

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
George...no clocks please. You want clocks...I got some laying around...dancing ballerina that goes around. Bought ages ago for my other half. She does not like my new VMS/Stellite...I don't care for her clocks.

Richard Daugird
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Sep 12th, 2017
Location: Texas City, Between Hou. & Galveston, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
Nice job! I did not realize lost wax could capture that fine of detail.

Jon Kovach
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Aug 27th, 2020
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: Jon...I just wanted to make sure you get the correct badge...no sense in putting an incorrect badge.  I don't mind.

Jon Kovach wrote: Iโ€™ll take a 16 inch hunter badge. I just want a badge on the fan. Doesnโ€™t have to be correct. 
Well then. Iโ€™ll take a 12 inch hunter badge then. Thank you very much. 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Lost wax is more tedious but great at capturing details...with minimal shrinkage.  I try to compensate by priming...2% shrinkage rule....no big deal.  Just measure the diameter...spray a tad bit on the edge for shrinkage.  Done.

Richard Daugird wrote: Nice job! I did not realize lost wax could capture that fine of detail.

Richard Koung
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Jul 10th, 2006
Location: California USA
Status: 
Offline
Richard koung 2 ECK

Geoff Dunaway
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Dec 23rd, 2005
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
 I need 4 X Hunter 12" and 2X  Diehl 12" badges. Thank you Louis , Geoff Dunaway

Rick Powell
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Feb 15th, 2015
Location: Kalamazoo , Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
1-ECK1-DIEHL
In addition to the compted badges
Thanks Louis

William Wu
Guest
 

Joined: Mon Jun 22nd, 2020
Location: East Cleveland, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Hi I would take 3 Victor Badges.

Tony Clayton
Guest


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
Two Please Luu

Louis Luu wrote: Courtesy of Tom Morel.




Bobby Gaines
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Aug 8th, 2017
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
Great looking badges! I would like two Diehl badges. How do the Diehl badges mount?

Steven P Dempsey
Guest


Joined: Tue May 15th, 2012
Location: Clarksville, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
1 Hunter Electric por favor.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Same way...only difference is the back will be solid/flush...mounted with the original clip.  Can you please tell what size you need?

Bobby Gaines wrote: Great looking badges! I would like two Diehl badges. How do the Diehl badges mount?

Last edited on Fri Jan 29th, 2021 06:44 pm by Louis Luu

Daniel OToole
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Jun 3rd, 2013
Location: RED OAK, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
Very cool

Steven P Dempsey
Guest


Joined: Tue May 15th, 2012
Location: Clarksville, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
Some day . . . small flags - - not a scaled down version from a 12" fan, subtle differences



Steven P Dempsey
Guest


Joined: Tue May 15th, 2012
Location: Clarksville, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
12" Flag (repo)



Attached Image (viewed 1596 times):

R&M 16 Square Back Ring Cage Badge.jpg

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I'll be doing the small badge down the line for the mini lollipop/vane. Goal right now is to get these out for casting. No more new badge request for now please.

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: George Durbin: 1 ECK, 1 FWEW.
While I am at it... 1 ECK, 1 FWEW, 1 HUNTER,  1 DIEHL, 1 Victor...

Last edited on Fri Jan 29th, 2021 08:43 pm by George Durbin

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
1 more thing! Wouldn't these make a great pocket watch!!  ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

Geo...

Daniel OToole
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Jun 3rd, 2013
Location: RED OAK, Texas USA
Status: 
Offline
Are these actually 12 inches?
Or made for 12" guard?

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I'm only make badges...don't let George near them please.  The badge are all for 12 inch cage...except for one 16 inch Hunter badge.


Daniel OToole wrote: Are these actually 12 inches?
Or made for 12" guard?

Vic Valencheck
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Aug 24th, 2015
Location: Parma, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis, Don't forget about my 8" ECK badge.  :wondering:

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I only have the one Rick Powell sent me...I think it will work.  I don't have an 8 inch ECK to compare with.

The ECK badge I got from Rick Powell is 60 mm.
Vic Valencheck wrote: Louis, Don't forget about my 8" ECK badge.  :wondering:

Last edited on Fri Jan 29th, 2021 11:56 pm by Louis Luu

Vic Valencheck
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Aug 24th, 2015
Location: Parma, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: I only have the one Rick Powell sent me...I think it will work.  I don't have an 8 inch ECK to compare with.

Vic Valencheck wrote: Louis, Don't forget about my 8" ECK badge.  :wondering:
I'll have to ask around to see if someone can give me dimensions for a 8" 

Mark Behrend
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Oct 21st, 2010
Location: Wildwood, Missouri USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis, great project your taking on! Just a question, why are you casting in bronze when ,โ€I believeโ€, most were cast in yellow brass? There is no disrespect intended. Thanks

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Bronze are easier to cast...most artist use it and it captures details a lot better.  Shines up just like brass!

Last edited on Sat Jan 30th, 2021 12:02 am by Louis Luu

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
The primary difference in brass vs bronze is the percentage of alloy mixed in (primary ratio of copper to nick/zinc). Bronze is much sturdier...used for sculpting...a preferred metal due to corrosion resistance. Also, bronze gears are actually much stronger than brass gears.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
The other difference is bronze is not as malleable as brass. Some people prefer brass for applications where it requires malleability. Huge statues...need to be stiff/not malleable.

Mark Behrend
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Oct 21st, 2010
Location: Wildwood, Missouri USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: The other difference is bronze is not as malleable as brass. Some people prefer brass for applications where it requires malleability. Huge statues...need to be stiff/not malleable.Thanks for your answer.  I had some victor badges casted up awhile ago and there werenโ€™t to many people fond of using yellow brass.  Most wanted to use a silicon bronze which seemed a little to dark for our fans.  Iโ€™m guessing there is a difference.  Thanks Mark

Mark Behrend
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Oct 21st, 2010
Location: Wildwood, Missouri USA
Status: 
Offline
Mark Behrend wrote: Louis Luu wrote: The other difference is bronze is not as malleable as brass. Some people prefer brass for applications where it requires malleability. Huge statues...need to be stiff/not malleable.Thanks for your answer.  I had some victor badges casted up awhile ago and there werenโ€™t to many people fond of using yellow brass.  Most wanted to use a silicon bronze which seemed a little to dark for our fans.  Iโ€™m guessing there is a difference.  Thanks MarkActually, thinking back, it could have been silicone brass.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Silicon can be used...I agree...too dark.  There are different categories of bronze.  Once you get a certain percentage of additives...forgot what that was...now it is bronze.  But honestly, the pointers and box I made shine up really well.
Silicon atoms are much bigger than the copper atoms and would also make a stiff metal...interstitial alloy.  I go the opposite...I try to find an additive close to the row on the periodic table close to copper to create the same affect.  I have no idea what Silicon/bronze alloy is used for.

Vic Valencheck
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Aug 24th, 2015
Location: Parma, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis, I messaged Ron Jeter  and he said that the 8" and 12" badges are the same.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got it.  Put you down for one ECK

Vic Valencheck wrote: Louis, I messaged Ron Jeter  and he said that the 8" and 12" badges are the same.

Last edited on Sat Jan 30th, 2021 06:50 am by Louis Luu

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Mark...look at the color difference.  My alloy vs the original ECK and FWEW.

Mark Behrend wrote: Louis, great project your taking on! Just a question, why are you casting in bronze when ,โ€I believeโ€, most were cast in yellow brass? There is no disrespect intended. Thanks



Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Michael Rathberger 1 J.Stone badge.

Vic Valencheck
AFCA Member


Joined: Mon Aug 24th, 2015
Location: Parma, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: Got it.  Put you down for one ECK?

Vic Valencheck wrote: Louis, I messaged Ron Jeter  and he said that the 8" and 12" badges are the same.
Yes please. 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got it.

Steven P Dempsey
Guest


Joined: Tue May 15th, 2012
Location: Clarksville, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
Thanks Luu - - those small R&M "standard" brass badges are needed (small quantities)  -  I can send a good one for a pattern if you need one.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Yes please.

Steven P Dempsey wrote: Thanks Luu - - those small R&M "standard" brass badges are needed (small quantities)  -  I can send a good one for a pattern if you need one.

William Wu
Guest
 

Joined: Mon Jun 22nd, 2020
Location: East Cleveland, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Bronze has lower casting temperature. Jewelry casting normally cast Bronze, not Brass. Also bronze casting the mold is less than 4 inch so most badges are tolerable to cast. I have asked one company to cast H64 brass for me the mold along costs 5 grand..... Generally brass casting costs more than bronze and more difficult to do so.

Mark Behrend wrote: Louis, great project your taking on! Just a question, why are you casting in bronze when ,โ€I believeโ€, most were cast in yellow brass? There is no disrespect intended. Thanks

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I ran into the same problem...just for the pattern...it was cost prohibitive.  I make the pattern myself and have my friend cast for me.  I tell him what I want in the mix...it turns out great.

William Wu wrote: Bronze has lower casting temperature. Jewelry casting normally cast Bronze, not Brass. Also bronze casting the mold is less than 4 inch so most badges are tolerable to cast. I have asked one company to cast H64 brass for me the mold along costs 5 grand..... Generally brass casting costs more than bronze and more difficult to do so.

Mark Behrend wrote: Louis, great project your taking on! Just a question, why are you casting in bronze when ,โ€I believeโ€, most were cast in yellow brass? There is no disrespect intended. Thanks

William Wu
Guest
 

Joined: Mon Jun 22nd, 2020
Location: East Cleveland, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Lou I was extremely shocked by that "$50" because I know that is basically the material cost and your labor into it. I was quoted $50 with 100 minimum cast unit, not counting the 5 grand die to make. Really appreciate your work.

Louis Luu wrote: I ran into the same problem...just for the pattern...it was cost prohibitive.  I make the pattern myself and have my friend cast for me.  I tell him what I want in the mix...it turns out great.

William Wu wrote: Bronze has lower casting temperature. Jewelry casting normally cast Bronze, not Brass. Also bronze casting the mold is less than 4 inch so most badges are tolerable to cast. I have asked one company to cast H64 brass for me the mold along costs 5 grand..... Generally brass casting costs more than bronze and more difficult to do so.

Mark Behrend wrote: Louis, great project your taking on! Just a question, why are you casting in bronze when ,โ€I believeโ€, most were cast in yellow brass? There is no disrespect intended. Thanks


Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
It would have cost more had this been done commercially. The lost wax mold is the most expensive. I get around by doing this myself. I tried pouring one time...that was enough for me. Leave it to the experts. I do it because I know there are fans out there missing the badge...glad to help out. There have other people here who have helped me in the past.

Steven P Dempsey
Guest


Joined: Tue May 15th, 2012
Location: Clarksville, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
tee hee, cast in 24 K gold . . .

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Mark...I researched properties of Silicon...I suspect they wanted a larger atom to make for a stiffer alloy with lubricant property...more slippery to resist mechanical wear due to its network covalent bond...at least that is what I suspect.

Mark Behrend wrote: Mark Behrend wrote: Louis Luu wrote: The other difference is bronze is not as malleable as brass. Some people prefer brass for applications where it requires malleability. Huge statues...need to be stiff/not malleable.Thanks for your answer.  I had some victor badges casted up awhile ago and there werenโ€™t to many people fond of using yellow brass.  Most wanted to use a silicon bronze which seemed a little to dark for our fans.  Iโ€™m guessing there is a difference.  Thanks MarkActually, thinking back, it could have been silicone brass.

Lane Shirey
AFCA Member


Joined: Wed Apr 30th, 2014
Location: York, Pennsylvania USA
Status: 
Offline
Iโ€™d like 2 of the Victor Badges. Thanks. 

Chris A. Campbell
Guest
 

Joined: Thu Mar 6th, 2014
Location: Hill Valley, CA
Status: 
Offline
William Wu wrote: Lou I was extremely shocked by that "$50" because I know that is basically the material cost and your labor into it. I was quoted $50 with 100 minimum cast unit, not counting the 5 grand die to make. Really appreciate your work.

$50 is indeed a very attractive price and many people over look the labor intensity. Aside from time involved in developing process, refining the process, perfecting the process then comes the labor involved for each piece. Even at this stage there are uncontrollable elements that prevent a 1:1 return. 

There will be a time in the future when people reference back to this thread asking if anyone has a badge willing to sell.


 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I just started cleaning the Victor badge and rounding the edge a bit...removing burs. I always clean with brasso and the metal lightens...not brassy anymore. There was some stubborn bits that was hard to remove...I gently treated with a little heat...strangely...the brass color came back. I will post pictures of the clean up badge in a bit to show the change in color upon cleaning with brasso. It did turn back to yellow upon applied heat.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Here is the Victor badge all cleaned up and solder removed.  I will add 2% (about 1.2 mm) back to the outer edge and fill the chipped part...it came that way.



Jim Dunn
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon May 22nd, 2006
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
G'day Louis.. could I put my hand up for 1x J stone and 1 x victor please... love your work! Thanks heaps Don't expect free shipping ....please. 

Last edited on Sun Jan 31st, 2021 02:47 pm by Jim Dunn

Steve Rockwell
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Jun 23rd, 2015
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
48th Post:        Silicon atoms are much bigger than the copper atoms and would also make a stiff metal...interstitial alloy.  I go the opposite...I try to find an additive close to the row on the periodic table close to copper to create the same affect.  I have no idea what Silicon/bronze alloy is used for.


      I don't know what may have changed the last twenty-five years, but silicon-bronze was the choice for fasteners in wooden boat work... Like the others here, I admire and appreciate ALL the work you've been doing, Louis.....

Last edited on Sun Jan 31st, 2021 07:34 pm by Steve Rockwell

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Too late...at the top it says free shipping.

Jim Dunn wrote: G'day Louis.. could I put my hand up for 1x J stone and 1 x victor please... love your work! Thanks heaps Don't expect free shipping ....please. 


Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Steve, nowadays there are different types of bronze for various applications.  No big deal.  Mark just wanted to know the difference.

Steve Rockwell wrote: 48th Post:        Silicon atoms are much bigger than the copper atoms and would also make a stiff metal...interstitial alloy.  I go the opposite...I try to find an additive close to the row on the periodic table close to copper to create the same affect.  I have no idea what Silicon/bronze alloy is used for.


      I don't know what may have changed the last twenty-five years, but silicon-bronze was the choice for fasteners in wooden boat work... Like the others here, I admire and appreciate ALL the work you've been doing, Louis.....

Jim Dunn
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon May 22nd, 2006
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I did say "please"

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I know...but we had a deal.  Shipping is free.  In the past...I remembered you sent me stuff for borrow...free shipping.  Please kindly accept...it will make me feel better.  Have a great day Jim!

Jim Dunn wrote: I did say "please"

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
There is still time to place order. Due to weather...I was unable to send them out last weekend...will be going out this weekend. All orders will close this Friday (2-5-2021). I got a couple more wax negatives to make.
Clarification needed.  Sorry if I don't respond to every post.  If you placed an order here, you are set.  I will tally up the total at closing date (2-5-2021) and make the required number of badges needed.

Last edited on Tue Feb 2nd, 2021 03:36 am by Louis Luu

Richard Koung
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Jul 10th, 2006
Location: California USA
Status: 
Offline
2 ECK please 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Richard Koung...I already got you down for 2 ECK...sorry for the confusion.

Last edited on Tue Feb 2nd, 2021 04:03 am by Louis Luu

David A Cherry
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun May 12th, 2019
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio USA
Status: 
Offline
Put me down for two cast victor badges... I hope Iโ€™m not too late... if you only have one that will be fine.. if you have any questions that need answering right away you can call me..  I donโ€™t always look at my messages every day.. Thanks..

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got it David.

Chad Hunter
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Thu Oct 13th, 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL.
Status: 
Offline
1 Victor 
1 ERK
1 J Stone


Last edited on Tue Feb 2nd, 2021 02:18 pm by Chad Hunter

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline

Last edited on Sat Feb 6th, 2021 06:25 pm by Louis Luu

Brad Hughes
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Nov 6th, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Louis/George,Put me down for 1 Hunter please.

Thank you for your efforts :hammer:

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
What size?  For the Hunter...I have two different sizes 12 and 16 inch cage.

Brad Hughes wrote: Louis/George,Put me down for 1 Hunter please.

Thank you for your efforts :hammer:

Brad Hughes
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Nov 6th, 2017
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
12" please

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got it Brad.

Jeff Whitfield
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Apr 9th, 2010
Location: USA
Status: 
Offline
Hey Louis

I'd like to order 1 Eck badge.

If I missed the cut ... no sweat.

Thanks,

Jeff

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got your order Jeff. No problem.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Order closed. The mold will go out Monday.

William Dunlap
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Jan 31st, 2014
Location: Kula, Maui, Hawaii USA
Status: 
Offline
Well, for those of you who missed out on this deal, maybe this will help.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
No big deal...I always make a couple extras just in case. Always try to plan ahead.

Jon Kovach
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Aug 27th, 2020
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Louis Luu wrote: Order closed. The mold will go out Monday.How are the badges coming along? Thanks!

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Dropped them off last week...rain and cold slowed down the lost wax casting. Should be ready by end of next month.

Rick Powell
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Feb 15th, 2015
Location: Kalamazoo , Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
Your efforts and willingness to take on this task are admirable to help preserve these gems and aid their owners to do so, many thanks, not a easy task.

Geoff Dunaway
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Dec 23rd, 2005
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
 I second that emotion.  :up: :up:   :clap:

Jon Kovach
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Aug 27th, 2020
Location: Los Angeles, California USA
Status: 
Offline
Agreed. You are the man!

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Thank you for your kind words. Have a great day everyone.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
There is a slight delay due to business closure...one of the employees got tested positive. I will be heading down this weekend to talk to the person who is doing the casting.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Rick Powell
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Feb 15th, 2015
Location: Kalamazoo , Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
Thanks for the update was wondering how you were doing
Rick

Tony Clayton
Guest


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
Lou,
Rome wasn't built in a day. Not to mention you took on this task during a pandemic. I comend your for even considering it. Good things come to those who wait.

Tony

Last edited on Thu Mar 11th, 2021 05:57 pm by Tony Clayton

Levi Mevis
AFCA Member


Joined: Tue Feb 24th, 2015
Location: Elkhart, Indiana USA
Status: 
Offline
Thanks for the update!  :clap:

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Badges will be ready in two weeks.

Geoff Dunaway
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Dec 23rd, 2005
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I was supposed to pick them up last week...work just open back up for me (last minute notice)...I will pick them up soon. I apologize for the delay. This project is interesting...not much profit...but I do enjoy the challenge. I'm making a whole $5 after paying off for the material cost and having George ship them out...pretty much break even once shipping cost is factored in. I really don't mind as this has been a learning experience to making mold. Hope everyone enjoys them soon. I will be free to do some more tinkering after this month...off from work for the summer. Again, sorry for the delay. Rick and Charlie...I have your badges all clean up and ready to ship back to you.

Rick Powell
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Feb 15th, 2015
Location: Kalamazoo , Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
You have done a job no one else would do, I for one appreciate it and donโ€™t mind the delay, I mean this obsessions of ours are over a hundred years old. 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I did pick up some interesting tricks to making the molds. When I started out looking for casters...majority was sand casting. The lost wax casting was not that expensive...but the cost of the molds were prohibitively expensive and I now understand why...lots of work involve to get them perfect. I watched a couple of videos and tried at first...lots of failure. I kept trying new materials and buying lots of different wax from Amazon...finally found some I liked that had a low melting temperature and hardness needed for the molds. The next step was to find someone who would be willing to do the casting. Most of the big companies...don't want to even deal with hobbyist so they refused to unless they did in-house mold and you had to order a lot of casting to make it worthwhile to offset the cost. I finally found a friend who was willing to do it. I did try to pour the metal once at his place...not something I would ever do again...dangerous and not used to the heavy work. But he did give me some ideas to improve on my mold.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Just picked up the badges today.  Will post pictures in a bit.  Badges will go out next week.  Sorry it took so long.
My favorite is the ECK and WE Victor badges...came out real nice.

Tony Clayton
Guest


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:I appreciate the job you took on to cast these Louis.

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Hi Louis!

Your efforts are amazing to me! I dunno if I could be that patient... we didn't see your duds but each failure gets you closer to success and I admire that! It is the old 2% being smart and 98% perspiration thing!


Geo...


Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
My biggest worry was the WE Victor badge due to the size...the shrinkage was perfect. It is late here...I will post some pictures I took earlier at the shop. I will inspect each badge before sending your way George.

Steve Butler
Guest


Joined: Wed Jul 6th, 2016
Location: Greenfield, Indiana
Status: 
Offline
Louis, if you happen to have an extra FWEW for a 16โ€ Iโ€™ll take it.  I only bought the fan a month ago. Thanks for all your hard work regardless.  ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Steve, I made mine from a 12 inch fan I had laying around.  I'm not sure if 16 inch utilize a different size.  I made extras and you are welcome to them.  I just got back from a long day.  Kids graduating...seeing them off and drive to the shop was long.  I will post pictures tomorrow of some of the badges before removing them from casting.

Steve Butler wrote: Louis, if you happen to have an extra FWEW for a 16โ€ Iโ€™ll take it.  I only bought the fan a month ago. Thanks for all your hard work regardless.  ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

Steve Butler
Guest


Joined: Wed Jul 6th, 2016
Location: Greenfield, Indiana
Status: 
Offline
First off congratulations! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘   I looked at two GE badges, they look the same to me.  Iโ€™ll take one. Thanks again.  

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Here are some pictures before I cut them from the stump.  The shrinkage for the WE Victor is nice!  I made a couple extras...the imperfect ones will be toss out.  I can't wait till tomorrow to post pictures...too much excitement.  Here are some of the pictures.




























Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
There are more on the floor...was in a rush to get to graduation to see the kids off.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Steve, the FWEW is on the floor...did not have time to take pictures of them...the slotted ones in the first picture is the FWEW badge.

Steve Butler wrote: First off congratulations! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘   I looked at two GE badges, they look the same to me.  Iโ€™ll take one. Thanks again.  

Rick Powell
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Feb 15th, 2015
Location: Kalamazoo , Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
They are gorgeous, canโ€™t wait to actually touch them.  Your perseverance is admirable. Thanks,
Rick

Tony Clayton
Guest


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
Oh my what beautiful badges you have !

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
It was a fun project and learned a couple of things. I will be working on another project...making small toy motor tables soon along with lions feet/paw to mount my Edison motor. Something I had been wanting to do for awhile.

http://www.afcaforum.com/forum1/63176.html

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
George, you can have all the flaw ones and do as you wish along with the good ones.

George Durbin wrote: Hi Louis!

Your efforts are amazing to me! I dunno if I could be that patient... we didn't see your duds but each failure gets you closer to success and I admire that! It is the old 2% being smart and 98% perspiration thing!


Geo...



Last edited on Sun Jun 6th, 2021 05:08 pm by Louis Luu

Rick Powell
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Feb 15th, 2015
Location: Kalamazoo , Michigan USA
Status: 
Offline
I believe the 8โ€ ECK is smaller as the 16โ€ are larger, they appear to be sized for the fan size

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I'll check on the ECK fan later. I have the 12 and 16 inch stored away.

I also just realized I had an 8 inch Hunter badge I forgot to cast...that is the neatest small badge I have.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
The 16 inch ECK badge is bigger than the 12 inch ECK badge.

Charlie Wicks
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Jul 27th, 2008
Location: New York USA
Status: 
Offline
Outstanding job Louis! Very Greatful for your efforts. That's what makes a club a club people like you. Can't wait to see mine in person! 

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Charlie, as soon as the gearbox is ready...I will send them to you. The badge will be mailed out sometime next week...have the mailing label ready along with Rick. The rest I will send to George.

Charlie Wicks
AFCA Member


Joined: Sun Jul 27th, 2008
Location: New York USA
Status: 
Offline
THANKS!!!!

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got the badge cut and cleaned.  Will sort and toss out the flaw ones.  The FWEW badge still needs to be cut.














Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I like the Victor, ECK...real nice and heavy. Badge are new and will tarnish nicely.

Tony Clayton
Guest


Joined: Tue Sep 25th, 2012
Location: Exmore, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
OMG

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Dang Louis!

Those are fabulous!


Geo...

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Will will start sorting them out and put names on them. I did make a couple extras just in case I have to throw out some.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Some have already tarnish...yellowing. Again, these are fresh and will tarnish a bit nicely. You will need to file the back just a tad bit...if you really nice it flat/flush. I'll leave these up to you. It is hot and I need to chill. George, I did take some more photos of the casting process...will upload later....silicon mold.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Here are the silicon molds I used to make the wax to cast.  I can make more if necessary...I learn this the hard way.  Chris Campbell suggested I use silicon mold.  The grayish stuff is the silicon and the yellow stuff is to give silicon some structure...tends to flap around.












Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I'll be casting the small R&M open commutator badge next for my mini-lollipop project.  Post here if you are interested.






Steven P Dempsey
Guest


Joined: Tue May 15th, 2012
Location: Clarksville, Virginia USA
Status: 
Offline
I could use a spare - - this is from my LIST 772 - did you find a pattern?


Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Yes I found one. I figured since I'm casting some for my mini-lollipop...might as well.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
All cleaned.  I decided to try and polish one.  You will need to run the back with a belt sander to level it.  I made sure there was plenty of metal in the back for this purpose.

Note the metal will yellow with time.  The first two was taken outside in the sun and the last picture inside.

The screw used on the ECK is 8-32

Please do NOT use a wire wheel to polish the badge.  I used a dremel polishing wheeel with red rouge and wiped off with a cloth.










Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Rick Powell...this one is yours.  Turned out nice.




Chad Hunter
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Thu Oct 13th, 2011
Location: Birmingham, AL.
Status: 
Offline
Put me down for 4 R&M small flags, tks

Mark Behrend
AFCA Member


Joined: Thu Oct 21st, 2010
Location: Wildwood, Missouri USA
Status: 
Offline
Those look great!!

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Order closed.  Please visit new page.


(Sorry for the confusion).  For those who placed their order Here...I will honor the price $50 with free shipping.  


Badges for sale - Buy-Sell-Trade - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums


The new order page is $80 with free shipping...I have to recoup some of my losses.  When you receive your badge and wish to place more, please post in the above link.

Last edited on Thu Jun 17th, 2021 08:23 am by Louis Luu

George Durbin
AFCA Member


Joined: Fri Nov 2nd, 2012
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
1:

Attached Image (viewed 493 times):

20210604_124425.jpg

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
I see what you did George. Great idea while this sort this website/server issue.  How the heck are you able to load pictures.....I can't load and stalls.

Last edited on Thu Jun 17th, 2021 08:25 am by Louis Luu

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
When you get the badge, please read the first page (first post) of this post. Some information on how to treat the badge were lost.

Last edited on Fri Jun 18th, 2021 06:20 am by Louis Luu

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Please follow link for payment or Search# 63469:

Badges Are In! - Buy-Sell-Trade - Antique Fan Collectors Association - AFCA Forums

Last edited on Thu Jul 1st, 2021 03:01 am by Louis Luu

James Davenport
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Mon Sep 16th, 2019
Location: Missouri USA
Status: 
Offline
1 Eck and 1 Victor, please.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Got it.

James Davenport wrote: 1 Eck and 1 Victor, please.

Louis Luu
AFCA Member
 

Joined: Sat Oct 2nd, 2010
Location:  
Status: 
Offline
Posting for this page has been closed.  


Beige Theme By: Di @ UltraBB
UltraBB 1.17 Copyright © 2007-2008 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.2351 seconds (15% database + 85% PHP). 71 queries executed.